[00:10] Auctus (~Auctus@REDACTED) joined #love [00:14] K3rl0u4rn (~yrenard@REDACTED) joined #love [00:14] SoggyWaffles (~SoggyWaff@REDACTED) joined #love [00:25] oldtopman (~oldtopman@REDACTED) joined #love [00:26] Slipyx (~slip@REDACTED) joined #love [00:27] i don't think '..' makes sense in physfs world [00:27] actually, it should! scratch that [00:27] bartbes, [00:30] http://www.joystiq.com/2012/02/15/farcry-3-coming-september-6-in-europe-according-to-german-trai/ [00:30] Most anticipated game this century. [00:45] anjo (~anjo@REDACTED) joined #love [00:53] K3rl0u4rn (~yrenard@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:17] there will be a farcry 3? [01:18] heh, going back to islands [01:18] but i liked safari [01:20] wow, fan service much farcry 3? dub step, "i'm on a boat" [01:27] zproc (~zproc@REDACTED) joined #love [01:37] zerotri (~zerotri@REDACTED) joined #love [01:37] zerotri (~zerotri@REDACTED) left irc: Client Quit [01:40] Slipyx_ (~slip@REDACTED) joined #love [01:44] Slipyx (~slip@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:49] zerotri (~zerotri@REDACTED) joined #love [01:53] Boolsheet (~norfanin@REDACTED) joined #love [02:06] SoggyWaffles (~SoggyWaff@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [02:12] zproc_ (~zproc@REDACTED) joined #love [02:12] zproc (~zproc@REDACTED) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:12] Nick change: zproc_ -> zproc [02:17] nosa-j (~m00k@REDACTED) joined #love [02:20] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxPvt0ax4uY&feature=g-u-u&context=G27de585FUAAAAAAAAAA [02:20] Looks like an awesome idea. 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[05:07] Phil Fish [05:08] what? [05:08] http://www.indiegamethemovie.com/news/2012/2/11/our-first-non-festival-screenings.html [05:08] phil fish is the guy making fez [05:08] He is the artist for Fez [05:08] yeah [05:08] ah [05:08] fez looks sweet [05:08] there is a lot of him in this trailer [05:09] i think the movie mostly centers around the SMB guys and him [05:09] That makes sense, considering the content of the trailer [05:09] aye [05:10] I was at TIGJam 3 and they were getting footage there -- they did a short teaser focused on Derek Yu and Spelunky [05:11] Hm, it doesn't seem to be on their videos list on Vimeo [05:11] they have a ton of good stuff it looks like http://www.indiegamethemovie.com/video/ [05:12] Ohhhh weird, they made it a private video. [05:12] Bummer, I was in that video! [05:15] they had to make it private because you were too sexy [05:15] no other explanation [05:16] I'm / too sexy for my shirt / too sexy for my shirt / ... [05:16] look at that body. [05:17] yeah, on the catwalk etc. etc. [05:17] o.o [05:18] I forgot that lots of LOVE people would be too young for that song [05:19] I know the song >_> [05:19] i doo too [05:19] i wa sjust [05:19] i don't like that song [05:19] "keeping up on my pop culture" [05:20] bartbes, on the other hand, is definitely too young [05:20] yes, I was thinking more of our younger friend Bart [05:20] and how old is Robin? [05:21] 22? [05:22] 20 [05:22] 19 i think [05:23] his profile page says 20 [05:23] but his birthday says 19 [05:23] maybe he is twelve. [05:24] a logical deduction [05:24] Thank you [05:27] boringmachines (~boringmac@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: boringmachines [05:29] Dang it, now I'm thinking about sexy gay music instead of sexy gay Lua. [05:29] Pet Shop Boys [05:29] no, must focus [05:30] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTN6Du3MCgI [05:31] Oh wow, I remember when they used to play that in da club [05:31] when I used to go to da club :< [05:31] so down with the Abe Lincoln look [05:32] he had to film himself so many times [05:37] arg you stupid texture, draw on my 3d cube! [05:40] Are you making a 3D cube in Love? [05:40] wegbl [05:41] yeah! fixed it [05:42] Neat. Will you have a demo online? [05:42] i was passing the wrong array in for the texture, surprised it didn't crash and burn [05:42] it's javascript [05:42] well, webgl didn't crash [05:43] http://fritzserver.no-ip.org:8889/webgl.html [05:44] cool [05:44] ha, cool. It's wrapped funny on a few of the sides [05:44] yeah [05:44] and the texture is supposed to be twice as big [05:44] well, 4 times i guess [05:45] meric (~Eric@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: meric [05:46] i was passing the wrong array into the texture coordinates [05:46] surprised it looked anything like it did [05:47] aidalgol (~user@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:47] hooray, now it looks like it should [05:48] nicely done [05:48] neon helium, eh? [05:48] the nehe tutorials [05:49] http://nehe.gamedev.net/tutorial/lessons_01__05/22004/ [05:52] there are TODO:'s in my winamp documentation. D= http://media.winamp.com/main/help/50/atf/atf.htm#substr [05:52] uh... oops [05:53] asdf [05:53] nehe tutorials = bad [05:53] todo: release winamp before finishing docs [05:53] check [05:53] slime73, i'm obviously not following them for webgl [05:53] i mean [05:54] i think they have a couple newer ones, but afaik all of them on that page teach really outdated and bad stuff [05:54] these are newer http://nehe.gamedev.net/tutorial/ios_lesson_01__setting_up_gl_es/44001/ [05:55] http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/#technology:graphics [05:58] dammit, why are all recordings of Jupiter bringer of jolity at different tempos? [05:58] Because time is relative. [05:59] i think this html5rocks.com website is owned by google [05:59] looking at the whois? [05:59] no [05:59] but it links to a google+ circle [05:59] and is hosted on google code [05:59] who does that? [06:00] http://whois.domaintools.com/html5rocks.com [06:00] Google, probably [06:00] lol i see [06:01] Also, the list of contributors on the front page might have been a clue [06:01] omagosh, I know one of these people [06:01] which one [06:01] Daniel X. Moore [06:01] what is strd6 [06:02] "pixel relations" =P [06:02] that's his company / alias [06:02] he wrote a sweet article http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/canvas/notearsgame/ [06:02] He's making a web-based HTML5 game IDE [06:02] called Pixie [06:03] uses CoffeeScript [06:03] classical music on youtube is such a farce [06:03] whyzat [06:04] classical music is one of those genres that suffers from lower bitrates [06:04] tremendously [06:05] most music sounds shit on YT, but yes, anything with a reasonable dynamic range will sound even worse [06:06] Since the audio stream is so much smaller than the video stream, I just wish they'd make it a decent quality [06:06] at least it has improved over the years [06:07] indeed, substantially improved [06:12] http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/canvas/texteffects/ [06:12] html5 is wow [06:16] holy cow [06:17] a few years ago JS was just used for making crappy website navigation and popup windows, now it's apparently a full-blown multimedia platform [06:18] (Java plugin runs to the corner of the room and sobs to self) [06:19] one of these days i want to make distance field - based font rendering for love >.> [06:19] explain [06:20] http://www.valvesoftware.com/publications/2007/SIGGRAPH2007_AlphaTestedMagnification.pdf http://bitsquid.blogspot.com/2010/04/distance-field-based-rendering-of.html [06:24] boooring lol [06:24] lol [06:24] it makes stuff look nice [06:24] blam :p [06:27] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTP0RawPtoM [06:28] I wonder how hard it would get to run Love in the browser, using NaCl or something like that [06:28] it was done with a plugin before [06:28] for 0.6 iirc [06:28] we'd need a webgl/opengl ES backend [06:28] for NaCl [06:29] which would be awesome [06:29] i' [06:29] i'm surprised it hasn't been done yet [06:29] camoy (~camoy@REDACTED) joined #love [06:29] the problem is with lua [06:29] it's a large undertaking and there's also the issue of getting the external dependencies to work or getting new ones [06:29] slime73: Well, there is the Love android port [06:29] that's ES 1.0 [06:30] NaCl needs 2.0 [06:30] But surely it's not that hard to port 1.0 to 2.0 [06:30] i think it is fixed to variable pipeline [06:30] that's basically the difference between opengl 1.4 and pure shader based 2.1 [06:30] Oh, hrm :\ [06:31] Strange that it doesn't support 1.0 though [06:31] not really, 1.0 is old and who would want to use it [06:31] fogeys [06:32] lol [06:32] people who want to write cross platform apps, it seems :P [06:32] no, most phones support es 2.0 these days [06:32] webgl is basically es 2.0 as well [06:34] camoy (~camoy@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:38] I did not know that Star Wars Knights of the Old republic wasn't like Jedi Knight I or II or Jedi Academy [06:38] I was so angry with myself last night for purchasing it [06:38] fuck. [06:38] you got to research before buying stuff! [06:38] My girlfriend just told me on the facebooks to get an n64 for SSB. [06:39] Lesson learnt TechnoCat [06:39] also is it possible for me to sell it now? [06:39] on Steam that is [06:39] no resale of steam games [06:40] you can't even give them away [06:40] i think you might have meant refund [06:40] What if you tell them [06:40] like [06:40] KOTOR is a good game [06:40] hey dudes i got the wrong one [06:40] it's just that, the controls are insanely unadaptive [06:40] that turned me off immediately [06:40] maybe you just don't have enough hands [06:41] funny but not [06:42] shit man, I feel bad [06:42] could've used that monies for something else [06:42] *sigh* [06:42] https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=8360-WEJC-2625#refund [06:43] An exception is made for games purchased during a pre-order period if the request is received prior to the games' release date. [06:43] except I purchased it in Sale [06:43] so, no exception [06:43] but can't I trade? [06:43] no [06:43] ah FML [06:44] $10 got wasted [06:44] never will I ever haste in buying games again [06:44] it was only 10$? [06:44] now I shall pirate all of them [06:44] lol [06:44] $10? [06:44] haha [06:44] Well actually it was $6 [06:44] 10$ now, but they hit you with monthly subscriptions i guess [06:45] http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/aad/887/b0c/resized/annoying-facebook-girl-meme-generator-omg-fml-21c3da.jpg [06:45] rest 4 were Jedi XD [06:45] thanks josefnpat you're very kind [06:45] Sorry, that's what I hear when 99% of people say "fml" [06:45] the thing is it isn't nice with the exchange rate at its highest [06:46] so for a guy who doesn't belong to a place > $ value [06:46] it is bad [06:46] anyways [06:46] fuck this shit, back to sleep [06:46] josefnpat: funny, that's how i imagine DarkSector to look like :p [06:46] lol that's not how exchange rates work. [06:47] wut [06:47] what do you mean? [06:47] nvm [06:47] butwai [06:47] omg, this chicago magazine did a special on gyro's. *DROOL* [06:47] Quick, yogurt! [06:48] yeah, apparently this place has special yogurt even for them [06:48] oh shit speaking of gyros I have to attend the EFY expo today. Need some Cree LEDs [06:48] they call it the "super-gyro" [06:48] lol [06:48] unless gyro is something else entirely [06:48] which makes me look like a penis [06:48] it is a way of cooking meat [06:48] *face-palm* [06:48] often served in a pita with tsaziki sauce [06:48] Y U NO SPECIFY! [06:49] hmmm [06:49] okay bai [07:06] http://day9.tv/live/ [07:10] yay, over 3333 views on my snayke thread :p [07:11] yeah, it looks good [07:13] is this 2v2? [07:14] gmod beta disabled the ability to load precompiled lua files. =P [07:15] it's an FFA [07:15] winner gets the 16th seed or something in the AHGL [07:15] the what [07:16] after hours gaming league [07:16] teams are composed of employees from companies [07:16] http://afterhoursgaming.tv/sc2/teams/ [07:17] never heard of a voidray [07:19] lol [07:21] i don't understand what just happene [07:21] d [07:22] the mothership sucked all the units into the vortex, including 43 void rays and a bunch of archons, the archons do splash damage and the void rays don't [07:22] so when they all pop out the archons kill everything instantly [07:22] oh, lol [07:22] i thought the mothership person won [07:22] they did [07:22] but i couldn't tell who he saying was doing the opposite of what they wanted to do [07:23] lol [07:23] the void ray player shouldnt have flown the void rays into the vortex [07:23] lol he did? [07:23] yeah [07:23] he built a base in his base [07:27] lol [07:29] these amatuer matches are much more entertaining [07:29] yeah :p [07:34] EmmanuelOga (~emmanuel@REDACTED) joined #love [07:48] atheros (~atheros@REDACTED) joined #love [08:04] ghoul (~ghoul@REDACTED) joined #love [08:14] EmmanuelOga (~emmanuel@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds [08:21] hryx (~hryx@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [08:28] ghoul (~ghoul@REDACTED) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:29] camoy (~camoy@REDACTED) joined #love [08:29] sla_ro|master (~slaco@REDACTED) joined #love [08:33] camoy (~camoy@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:35] slime73: what is this slander? [08:35] :p [08:35] yes, this incarnation might not be too old [08:35] zproc (~zproc@REDACTED) joined #love [08:35] but I have heard the wonders of right said fred [08:35] zproc (~zproc@REDACTED) left irc: Client Quit [08:35] assuming the lyrics indicate the actual subject [08:51] holy balls [08:51] when did twitter change its skin? [08:52] it rolled out the changes a few days ago I think [08:54] Slipyx_ (~slip@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: nn [08:55] adrix89 (~adrix89@REDACTED) joined #love [09:45] Siphonen (~Siponen@REDACTED) joined #love [09:49] Boolsheet (~norfanin@REDACTED) left #love [09:59] ikaros (~ikaros@REDACTED) joined #love [10:00] K3rl0u4rn (~yrenard@REDACTED) joined #love [10:30] camoy (~camoy@REDACTED) joined #love [10:34] camoy (~camoy@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:50] ikaros (~ikaros@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [10:51] SiENcE (~home@REDACTED) joined #love [10:56] Jerkwad (~G-A-B-E-N@REDACTED) joined #love [11:03] Affi (~Ryan@REDACTED) joined #love [11:08] Affi (~Ryan@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:49] Jerkwad (~G-A-B-E-N@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [11:57] sla_ro|master (~slaco@REDACTED) left irc: [12:20] dnyy (~dnyy@REDACTED) joined #love [12:23] zerotri (~zerotri@REDACTED) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:23] zerotri (~zerotri@REDACTED) joined #love [12:28] FireFly (~firefly@REDACTED) joined #love [12:28] atheros (~atheros@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:30] camoy (~camoy@REDACTED) joined #love [12:34] camoy (~camoy@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:40] headchant (~hars@REDACTED) joined #love [12:48] headchant (~hars@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:30] atheros (~atheros@REDACTED) joined #love [13:38] feva (~dieter@REDACTED) joined #love [13:38] feva (~dieter@REDACTED) left #love [13:48] Phredom (6eaf54e8@REDACTED) joined #love [13:48] hi all [14:30] camoy (~camoy@REDACTED) joined #love [14:34] camoy (~camoy@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:36] hi [14:44] atheros (~atheros@REDACTED) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:03] best album from the indie music bundle 2? [15:03] indie game music bundle 2* [15:05] sworcery duh [15:05] lawl yeah [15:05] what about the 10$+ ones [15:06] hmm [15:07] jamestown was actually surprisingly good [15:08] that isn't 10$+ though [15:08] Jamestown looks really nice [15:09] i've played jamestown a lot now [15:09] Action: TechnoCat catches train [15:09] I do think they could've matched the art with some more gameplay though [15:09] but the correct answer to 10$+ is Tower of Heaven [15:09] it is a bit simplistic [15:09] when it is multiplayer [15:09] it is tons of fun [15:11] darn now there is convo here and I am off to bed grrr - well Hi all and nite nite all [15:16] ragecryx (~ragecryx@REDACTED) joined #love [15:19] TheAncientGoat (~quassel@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:20] Snaker__ (~user@REDACTED) joined #love [15:21] EmmanuelOga (~emmanuel@REDACTED) joined #love [15:24] dnyy (~dnyy@REDACTED) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:24] adrix89 (~adrix89@REDACTED) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:32] zproc (~zproc@REDACTED) joined #love [15:34] i wonder where he us from [15:34] TechnoCat: I'd like to do something like guardian legend [15:35] link to YouTube please [15:36] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmh6056U0Nw [15:36] it is space shooting mixed with exploration [15:36] 2:50 they get to the exploring bits [15:37] basically first level is space shooter and then the next ones you have to find in the various mazes [15:37] some requiring keys to open [15:37] if I recall right there is a couple of alternate ways of playing the game through [15:38] back [15:38] sleep can wait [15:39] that looks like fun. bit hard. phone almost wouldn't buffer it [15:40] oh, exploring? back to the video. [15:40] TechnoCat: I've had it since I was a kid [15:40] it is excellent [15:40] one of best games on the entire system [15:40] sadly never sequeled in any way [15:41] I like how they worked it into the story too [15:41] the main character is a chick whose armor can morph into a spaceship [15:41] lol, he's walking around [15:42] and she's on this planet sized zoo of lifeforms [15:42] that have been corrupted [15:42] reminds me.of i think it was called blaster Master [15:42] and she must activate the self-destruction mechanism inside the planet [15:43] sorry that this has nothing to do with what you are chatting about - but, is the an IDE for lua that has intelisense (a good one) I come from a vb.net background - kinda got lazy over there [15:44] don't use any IDE [15:45] Phredom, don't know. probably us one in MaMac [15:45] Phredom: If you can get a hold of it, try Decoda [15:45] TechnoCat: yeah blaster master was a good one too [15:45] that might have something similar [15:45] decoda sucks a Ann ide. only good aa debugger [15:46] phone typing is hard. :-( [15:46] lol [15:46] or should i just bite the bullet and stop relying on intellisense [15:47] what does it help you with? [15:47] auto complete of code [15:47] I type fu and then a function is there or other commands that start with fu in a list [15:48] intellisense gets in my way ask the time on VS [15:48] it is a lazy mans tool [15:48] we hates it [15:49] in love2d you lazy man by aliasing your functions so that your code looks like lg.d.r(...) [15:49] :D [15:50] and the long versoin would look like? [15:51] love.graphics.rectangle(...) [15:52] so actually lg.r [15:52] ah yep [15:52] but honestly I don't find myself usually in a lot of method soup in love projects [15:52] that will take me awhile to ajust to - as we alway did things the long way so a monkey could read the code [15:53] I mean don't do that :D [15:53] except love.graphics -> lg contraction is pretty sensible [15:53] if you feel like you are writing that a lot [15:54] ah now i get ya [15:55] how well should i know lua before jumping into love [15:56] check out tables, and loops [15:56] they have some qualities that might not be present in other languages [15:56] otherwise I think you learn from love2d just as well [15:56] sweet thank you [15:58] if I can remake my RPG that I made in VB.net I will be a happy man =D [16:00] q66 (~q66@REDACTED) joined #love [16:01] TechnoCat: guardian legend suffers also from the "nonsensical north american box art" syndrome [16:02] eur cover http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/7860/860999-the_guardian_legend_s.jpg [16:02] us http://www.retrogameguide.com/images/box_art_and_carts/the-guardian-legend-box-art-front.jpg [16:02] wat [16:03] i like the eur one [16:03] yeah and all the things in eur art are in the game [16:03] ooooh [16:03] the us version is like "wanna play a game about some angry eyes?!" [16:04] "errr..no?" [16:04] anjo (~anjo@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:04] lol [16:07] right this time I am really going to sleep - eyes cant read properly anymore [16:07] thank you for the advice before =D [16:08] Phredom (6eaf54e8@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Page closed [16:08] i would never advocate shortening love function names. =\ [16:09] unless you are in serious optimization mode [16:16] headchant (~hars@REDACTED) joined #love [16:16] most def not [16:16] not when there's LuaSrcDiet [16:24] is that an obfuscater? 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[18:28] SiENcE (~home@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: @all: cya [18:35] ghoul (~ghoul@REDACTED) joined #love [18:38] slime73 (~slime73@REDACTED) joined #love [18:40] well [18:40] my game dev partner doesn't show up to class or labs [18:40] >_> [18:44] Who runs the love2d subreddit? [18:45] one[coding] (~one@REDACTED) joined #love [18:45] some noob [18:45] No kidding [18:45] neither of the admins are in this channel. [18:45] They're getting spam posts from /r/gamedev and they can't even tell that the game was not made in love [18:45] he joined the love forums like 2 months ago, right when he started the subreddit [18:45] lol [18:46] It kinda pisses me off though. [18:46] There's the forums, and they do wonders. [18:47] And someone who wants to try love2d, is going to bump into the reddit and go [18:47] oh [18:47] this blows. [18:47] and be on their merry way. [18:47] i suggested bartbes ask for admin status but he didn't want to [18:47] I don't blame him. It's more work to handle [18:47] But I don't think it looks good for the love2d community [18:48] at least bartbes should take the channel, and close it down. [18:48] Snaker__ (~user@REDACTED) joined #love [18:48] yes, good plan [18:48] let's shut this channel down! [18:48] no wait [18:48] haha [18:48] hahaha [18:48] But I mean, it reflects poorly on love2d community. [18:48] It doesn't even represent the core posters [18:49] well the subreddit's dead anyway [18:49] one may be able to recognize that, but other's wont. [18:50] also for the record i hate that the love forums are ssl-only, things load like 10x as slow as before [18:50] especially the icons [18:50] They have a /r/gamemaker link in the sidebar. [18:50] And I quote, "Mac OsX Automator" [18:51] lol [18:51] r/gamemaker also links back to r/love2d for whatever reason [18:52] So [18:52] people from gamemaker see this love2d link [18:52] go to that subreddit [18:52] and see it's dead. [18:53] bartbes, go hack reddit [18:53] I have internet rage/ [18:53] josefnpat_alt: tbh, the people that are deterred by that subreddit, I don't want anyway [18:54] darwinism [18:54] Well [18:54] Then I'm going to start posting retarded stuff in there now. [18:54] lol [18:55] lol [18:55] ooo [18:55] there's a big list of love libs [18:55] and there's 4 [18:56] ಠ_ಠ [19:00] holy shit finally [19:00] "Xcode in the Mac App Store has been repackaged, and is now distributed as a stand-alone application. This replaces the Install Xcode package, and adds support for delta updates. Xcode includes a new "Downloads" preference pane to install optional components such as command line tools, and previous iOS Simulators." [19:01] wow [19:08] anjo (~anjo@REDACTED) joined #love [19:11] Lafolie (~Lafolie@REDACTED) joined #love [19:17] mnus (47d0d7f5@REDACTED) joined #love [19:19] vrld: I've been playing around with HC. Are you sure intersectsRay() is returning the correct ray parameter? It seems off by several orders of magnitude. I could be wrong though. [19:19] it seems to be returning ray charles [19:19] zproc (~zproc@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: zproc [19:19] doo doo chhsssshhh [19:20] <.< [19:20] Action: bartbes bows [19:21] Jerkwad (~G-A-B-E-N@REDACTED) joined #love [19:24] well, there's someone I can call Jerkwad without feeling guilty [19:26] geckojsc (~geckojsc@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:37] atheros (~atheros@REDACTED) joined #love [19:43] dnyy (~dnyy@REDACTED) joined #love [19:51] ragecryx (~ragecryx@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:53] Royble (~roybie@REDACTED) joined #love [20:10] mnus: no, i'm not actually sure... [20:14] Darkwater (5ed68a16@REDACTED) joined #love [20:14] Mooh [20:14] How's the status on Love 0.8? [20:14] bartbes / linx / anyone [20:14] thelink* [20:14] thelinx** [20:14] *anjo [20:15] anjo**** [20:15] Btw, where are those builds located again, bartbes? [20:15] http://love2d.org/builds [20:15] Woo tnx [20:16] bartbes: Any major bugs? [20:16] crashes on launch in osx 10.5 and 10.6 [20:17] Okay [20:17] Glad I use WIndows [20:28] =\ [20:29] ... [20:31] camoy (~camoy@REDACTED) joined #love [20:35] camoy (~camoy@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:36] ;;; [20:42] camoy (~camoy@REDACTED) joined #love [20:45] thelinx, do you have OS stats for love2d.org? [20:45] TechnoCat: he uses google analytics, so undoubtedly [20:45] I have access to it, so what do you want to know? [20:45] bartbes, do you have access to the analytics? [20:46] just % linux, windows, osx, ios, android, other [20:48] 66% windows, 16% linux, 14% osx, 1.5% iOS, 0.65% android [20:48] hmmm, not quite what i expected [20:49] i wonder how many are spam [20:49] lol [20:49] +ers [20:49] +mers * [20:49] http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp [20:50] i guess a 16% linux user % is high [20:50] anjo (~anjo@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Leaving... [20:51] ragecryx (~ragecryx@REDACTED) joined #love [20:51] linux is on the decline on w3 [20:51] osx is on the rise though [20:51] dammit, i want this data plotted [20:58] slime73 (~slime73@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Oh noes! [21:00] slime73 (~slime73@REDACTED) joined #love [21:01] Darkwater (5ed68a16@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Page closed [21:01] SiENcE (~Not4You@REDACTED) joined #love [21:02] that's because everyone who uses linux are learning that w3schools is a piece of shit [21:06] i like it. =[ [21:07] i use it as a reference nearly everytime i write js/css/html webstuff [21:08] K3rl0u4rn (~yrenard@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:08] ooh, new google reader skin [21:08] K3rl0u4rn (~yrenard@REDACTED) joined #love [21:08] my reader hasn't changed [21:08] oh, but settings looks new [21:09] custom share links? that sounds nifty [21:34] TechnoCat, w3schools is in no way affilated with wc3 and w3c have asked on multiple occasions for them to say that on the site. The biggest problem with w3schools is that some of the content is not correct, and apparently they don't have an intrest in changing it. [21:34] heh [21:34] but it's nice to know linux is ahead of os x on love2d.org. [21:35] It's nice to know we're ahead somewhere other than server software. [21:38] Azzkikr (~crud@REDACTED) joined #love [21:39] lol [21:39] well, we may not be a head, but at least we're not an ass [21:43] hee-haw [21:43] K3rl0u4rn (~yrenard@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:45] derp [21:48] Slipyx (~slip@REDACTED) joined #love [21:51] i use windows. =P [21:51] WindPower (etienne@REDACTED) joined #love [21:52] except for irc, i use linux for irc. haha [21:54] Well.... You use irssi :) [21:54] yeah, and ssh [21:54] telnet is a nightmare [21:54] omg telnet is terrible [21:54] telnet is ancient garbage just like ftp [21:54] if you press up [21:54] instead of going to the previous command [21:54] it goes up in the buffer [21:54] lol [21:54] and if you hit backspace [21:55] it will just keep backspacing to the left withotu stopping [21:55] ^H^H^H^H^H [21:55] sounds like you need better term software [21:55] right [21:55] josefnpat_alt, haha, i was using windows telnet server and client [21:55] telnet is awesome for games like nethack or crawl [21:55] no wiat, i was using telnet server and putty [21:56] You know, TechnoCat, I find it hard to take people serioulsly who say they have a windows server. [21:56] telnet server (one that comes with windows) blows [21:56] lol [21:56] i'm at work lol [21:56] Gotcha [21:56] That makes sense then. [21:56] running windows server 2008 or something [21:56] dcase (~dcase@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org [21:59] Snaker__ (~user@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:59] aka BWOD or Blue Wallpaper Of Death [22:00] need me one of them [22:00] supp guis [22:01] sup cli's [22:04] not much, just [22:04] swinging. [22:04] Action: josefnpat_alt puts on glasses [22:04] HAR HAR you make funny [22:04] do you do java? [22:05] not anymore [22:05] I used to [22:05] swing was a pretty good GUI i thought [22:05] i just never liked java too much [22:05] i'll take swing over tk anyday [22:05] maybe i should try tk again [22:05] but freshmen year it made me want to pull my hair out [22:06] I'll give you that [22:06] qt maybe? [22:07] oldtopman (~oldtopman@REDACTED) joined #love [22:08] TechnoCat: what language did you use tk with? [22:09] python [22:09] so it should've been easy [22:09] mmmeh [22:09] it should make more sense with the language it's designed for [22:09] tcl [22:09] if I had to do a gui in python I'd pick either gtk or qt [22:10] I mean, I'll write it in VB and trace ips [22:10] pyside [22:10] yeah [22:10] yeah, everyone knows gui's make sweet networking tools [22:18] Royble (~roybie@REDACTED) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:19] Lafolie (~Lafolie@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Be back later [22:23] Just in case you missed it http://www.moddb.com/games/minecraft/features/humble-bundle-mojam [22:24] on the note of GUIs, any idea what the blender GUI is made in? Is it Python? [22:24] why would you link to the moddb thing instead of the actual blog post [22:24] Royble (~roybie@REDACTED) joined #love [22:25] uh because I saw it there [22:25] first [22:26] Royble (~roybie@REDACTED) left irc: Client Quit [22:27] oldtopman (~oldtopman@REDACTED) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:27] oldtopman (~oldtopman@REDACTED) joined #love [22:45] Inumedia (~Inumedia@REDACTED) joined #love [22:45] Inumedia (~Inumedia@REDACTED) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:45] Inumedia (~Inumedia@REDACTED) joined #love [22:45] Inumedia (~Inumedia@REDACTED) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:46] Inumedia (~Inumedia@REDACTED) joined #love [22:46] Inumedia (~Inumedia@REDACTED) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:47] Inumedia (~Inumedia@REDACTED) joined #love [22:47] Inumedia (~Inumedia@REDACTED) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:48] Inumedia (~Inumedia@REDACTED) joined #love [22:48] Inumedia (~Inumedia@REDACTED) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:49] Inumedia (~Inumedia@REDACTED) joined #love [22:50] haha, we get to vote [22:50] i hope i get wifi on the plane [22:50] so i can watch this [22:51] the most and least voted for categories for each thing get chosen [22:51] noo, shoot'em'up is losing [22:51] oh, interesting [22:51] I want super dick powers [22:51] maybe i should remove my vote [22:51] so it might be an RTS beat 'em up with a steampunk egypt theme [22:52] haha [22:53] oldtopman (~oldtopman@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: *poof* [22:57] anjo (~anjo@REDACTED) joined #love [22:57] Snaker__ (~user@REDACTED) joined #love [22:58] Starting this Friday, February 17th at 10 CET [22:58] what is that GMT? [22:59] +1? [22:59] yes, it is +1 [22:59] Inumedia_ (~Inumedia@REDACTED) joined #love [22:59] hmm, so it starts at 3am tonight for me [22:59] T_T [22:59] zerotri (~zerotri@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com [23:01] Inumedia (~Inumedia@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:02] TechnoCat: At least you will be able to watch it. :P [23:02] heh [23:03] i have 2 early classes tomorrow so i can't stay up late to watch the start, but i'll be able to watch it most of the day at least [23:03] School + SGA conference weekend. Why did they have to pick this weekend. xD [23:04] i'll be on a plane for 2 hours on saturday but that's it :P [23:04] Siphonen, i won't be able to watch it. [23:04] i get up at 7am for work (maybe earlier if i think i should work more hours) [23:04] i'm going to oregon from illinois with 1 connection [23:04] Ah, pity. [23:04] :( [23:05] i'll still pay them moneys though [23:05] i want more of these! [23:05] it is like a gameshow [23:05] lol [23:05] when they reach certain money amounts [23:05] things should happen [23:06] like ever 1000$ they have to all sing a song [23:06] http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/horrible-reactions-to-chris-brown-at-the-grammys [23:09] at the grannies! [23:11] slime73: remind me to never read those comments again [23:11] bartbes: never read those comments again [23:11] thank you [23:12] slime73: make me a sandwich [23:12] make it yourself >.> [23:12] oh well [23:12] that's a 50% success rate [23:13] could've been worse [23:13] lol [23:13] no it couldn't have! [23:13] it could only have been 100% otherwise [23:14] why, TechnoCat, would you fancy getting beaten by chris brown as well? [23:14] i don't known who that is [23:14] I'll take that as a yes [23:14] yes [23:15] and you'll take it like a man [23:20] name your favorite oxymorons [23:21] jumbo shrimp [23:21] down escalator [23:21] thats over used [23:21] how about original copy? [23:21] icyhot [23:21] act naturally [23:21] original oxymoron? [23:21] pretty ugly [23:21] living dead [23:21] rolling stop [23:21] pretty ugly isn't an oxymoron [23:21] you cant be pretty and ugly [23:21] constant variable [23:22] pretty's definition is different [23:22] exact estimate [23:22] paid volunteers [23:22] civil war [23:22] sound of silence [23:22] clever fool [23:22] only choice , thats it [23:22] :/ [23:22] muted flooder [23:23] your funy >.> [23:23] funy [23:23] you're puny [23:23] funny [23:23] controlled chaos [23:23] thats a good one [23:23] i made a good one! [23:23] TechnoCat: makes me think of the big bang [23:24] which, according to the rules of physics saying that entropy always increases as time passes, was in fact extremely organised [23:24] pretty un-explosion-like [23:24] have yuo heard of wireless cables? [23:24] lol [23:24] i have not [23:24] zproc (~zproc@REDACTED) joined #love [23:24] its another name for a cable box [23:24] but its funny sounding [23:25] geckojsc (~geckojsc@REDACTED) joined #love [23:25] also, civil war? wtf [23:25] you're totally messing up meaning [23:25] like you did with pretty ugly [23:25] hey its in the top 10 list of well known oxymorons [23:25] but that's bullshit [23:25] lol [23:25] nobody said the war is civil [23:25] only that it's thought by the civilians [23:26] I bet the list is american [23:26] there, that was my daily dose of racism, goodnight [23:26] smart american [23:26] uh no thats not why its called a civil war at all, its called a civil wat because the technique in which they fought was thought ot be a civil way to fight. [23:26] get your history right [23:26] >.> [23:26] (and for those who claim that 'american' isn't a race, you're one yourself) [23:26] can't tel lif troll, or stupid [23:26] Blarget2: but that's more bullcrap [23:27] there's no such thing as civil in a war [23:27] well, I blame TechnoCat now [23:27] a civil war is a war within an entity. [23:28] that too [23:28] well, geez, in my language civil war translates to something more along the lines of civilian war [23:28] a civil war just states a war within a nation or power [23:28] between either 2 sided people or a state and its goverment. [23:28] heh, 2-sided people [23:28] Hey, I was just trying to use love to make a prototype editor tool, but I'm not particularly familiar with lua. I'm trying to use... slither for classes... I've made a simple box class which I've tested works, but if I try to add a box to an array, then do boxes[i]:draw() it breaks. What's the correct syntax? [23:29] James Fearon, a scholar of civil wars at Stanford University, defines a civil war as "a violent conflict within a country fought by organized groups that aim to take power at the center or in a region, or to change government policies". [23:29] well now you know (rainbow in the background) [23:29] Nistur_, that looks correct. http://pastebin.com/ please [23:29] slime73 (~slime73@REDACTED) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:29] Blarget2: like I care how James Fearon defines it [23:30] for all I know he could be a giant douche-troll [23:30] uh [23:30] so could webster ;<) [23:30] weren't you taught that authority doesn't make good arguments? [23:30] just sayin [23:30] FireFly (~firefly@REDACTED) left irc: Changing host [23:30] FireFly (~firefly@REDACTED) joined #love [23:30] i was certainly never taught that [23:31] i don't feel like i was ever taught critical thinking skills in school [23:31] also relevant, this is a fun read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Logic_of_Violence_in_Civil_War [23:31] well, that's because otherwise people would all flee the country or start voting on sane people [23:31] lol [23:31] true [23:31] =P [23:32] it doesn't look like a GOP candidate will win right now. so that at least is going for us. [23:32] in my school my teacher believed we INVENTED electricity, not discovered it. [23:32] wtf? [23:32] since all the GOP candidates appear to be money grubbing pigs. [23:32] you dont INVENT a law in the universe. nor a state of matter. [23:32] TechnoCat: I will. I think it's something to do with me having no idea how arrays work in lua... http://pastebin.com/X1Bv8T8c [23:32] Blarget2: we invented the roundness of the earth too [23:32] lawl [23:32] also, technically, we can't say it's a law [23:33] Nistur_, they are called tables in lua [23:33] it is a state tho [23:33] and electricity sure isn't [23:33] anyway [23:33] TechnoCat: apologies, I'm guilty of being a C/C++ programmer I guess :S [23:34] ToxicFrog (~ToxicFrog@REDACTED) joined #love [23:34] who here has heard of the flat earth society? [23:36] slime73 (~slime73@REDACTED) joined #love [23:36] Blarget2, there is a geocentric socity in indiana that meets annualy [23:37] Nistur, i'm not familiar with slither syntax (bartbes sure is though) [23:38] I recognised the name, but I felt rude questioning directly :P [23:38] Grizzly (grizzly@REDACTED) joined #love [23:39] Grizzly (grizzly@REDACTED) left #love [23:39] don't use numboxes [23:39] use #boxes [23:39] ok [23:39] hmm [23:39] 12-02-16 12:35:34.000 PM kernel: hfs: Removed 1 orphaned / unlinked files and 35803 directories [23:39] that won't fix it [23:39] but yeah [23:39] WHAT WAS THE FILE [23:39] sla_ro|master (~slaco@REDACTED) left irc: [23:39] guess it doesn't matter [23:40] lol [23:40] a lot of dirs though [23:40] yeah.... [23:40] xcode related? [23:40] TechnoCat: Hey, well, whaddya know, it fixed it [23:41] oh, well [23:41] hooray! [23:41] TechnoCat: I doubt it, i was rebooting from windows to osx [23:41] http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/321263_288970934459938_192809360742763_1008355_1141056722_n.jpg [23:41] Thanks :) [23:41] Nistur, also, your __init__ = function(self, posx, posy) is kind of weird [23:41] but i suppose that is slither syntax? [23:43] TechnoCat: what in particular is weird about it? [23:43] it is perfectly valid, it just isn't use lua syntactical sugar [23:45] it's following how slither suggested [23:45] Saika (3cf15ca6@REDACTED) joined #love [23:45] http://pastebin.com/7zzgYesx [23:45] yeah, i don't use slither. =P [23:46] oh, i meant to remove the self in the draw function call [23:46] table:functionname() inserts self on its own [23:46] table:functionname() === table.functionname = function(self) [23:46] I wasn't sure which class library to use :P I chose slither because it claimed to be like python, and I've done a little python before :P [23:46] and ok, cool :) thanks [23:47] SoggyWaffles (~SoggyWaff@REDACTED) joined #love [23:52] Lafolie (~Lafolie@REDACTED) joined #love [23:52] why is there no hg add man page? [23:54] ? [23:54] hg help add [23:54] yeah [23:54] or hg -v help add [23:54] i was looking for -f [23:54] but i was confusing hg with git apparently [23:55] heh