[00:00] ah, okay :) [00:05] yeah and then from that i thought "hmm what if i do this too [00:05] break things you want to achieve down into more manageable chunks [00:07] Waffles (~SoggyWaff@REDACTED) joined #love [00:17] kraftman: sounds like fun, i guess i could try that too [00:18] i'd say my end goal for now is going for a beat-em-up [00:18] while i also feel the need to learn udp networking [00:21] why udp? [00:22] Kawata_ (~Kawata@REDACTED) joined #love [00:24] I'm not the most knowledgeable on the subject really, but I read up on it being used for network play in fast-paced games [00:26] hail love! [00:38] huehue [00:39] chipotle likes buying into hippie culture [00:39] they just rolled out "gmo-free" tofu [00:39] it's funny because it's a complete lie [00:39] all the soybeans in kansas city are from monsanto cultures... [00:53] Vornicus (~vorn@REDACTED) joined #love [00:54] JezK (~jez@REDACTED) joined #love [00:57] o/ [00:57] good morning lovers [00:57] morning wtf [00:58] timezones, wtf [01:04] god i love lua [01:04] no endless fucking around with types [01:04] aww i like types [01:05] but yeah lua is awesome [01:05] i miss compile time errors [01:05] i havent written lua for a while and i just realised how much more time id spent actually coding than I do with C\ [01:05] C# [01:09] \o [01:09] yo shorefire [01:11] yo [01:11] how's things? [01:11] unek|christmas: have you ordered anything from banggood before? [01:11] JezK: eh alright, bored [01:12] aww D: [01:12] you? [01:13] not bad, just at work in the aircon avoiding the heat.. 35C here today D: [01:13] Jeez [01:13] That's roughly the hottest summer we've had [01:14] where are you? it can get up to ~45 here, but thankfully that's fairly rare [01:14] England/London [01:14] ahh [01:14] yeah i hear the weather is amazing there [01:14] 10c out currently [01:14] lol [01:14] It's pissing it down like it always is [01:14] all we get is rain [01:14] \o/ [01:14] sounds great [01:15] getting down to 1c some nights \o/ [01:15] hopefully snow soon [01:15] So it looks like I'm getting a poker 2 in a week \o/ [01:15] www.banggood.com/KBC-Poker-2-Mini-61-Keys-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Blue-p-909738.html [01:15] So god damn cheap ._. [01:19] get an ergodox :P [01:19] get an hhkb [01:19] eh gota build those [01:19] jacob_: would if I had the money lol [01:19] its not too hard :) [01:19] kraftman: not cheap either :p [01:20] theres a guy selling cheaper cases on deskthority now [01:20] so most of the cost is the switches [01:20] BanLour (~oftc-webi@REDACTED) joined #love [01:20] hello :D [01:20] I'd still need a soldering iron too [01:21] http://www.bytecellar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/IMG_5297-2.jpg [01:21] this is a beauty [01:21] leopold fc660? [01:21] fc660c [01:21] ah [01:22] thats the keyboard I've wanted the most [01:22] but the only place I can find it is from qtans ebay and its not cheap ;-; [01:22] shipping is crazy expensive [01:22] jacob_: http://i.imgur.com/E259yu7.jpg [01:22] there's mine [01:22] I've bought my hhkbpro2 from the japanese amazon [01:22] http://i.imgur.com/CEaJPKp.jpg [01:22] was waaay cheaper [01:23] than getting it from america [01:23] jacob_: how did you even do that? [01:23] or uk [01:23] Amazon only ships to its location though? [01:23] like I cant use usa amazon because it wont ship to uk [01:23] kraftman: I want [01:23] :c [01:24] oh man [01:24] the banggood support is great lol [01:24] Dear Pavlos, Deeoply Apologize ! [01:24] Francisco (~Fran@REDACTED) joined #love [01:24] BanLour (~oftc-webi@REDACTED) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:24] haha [01:25] ah here i found the site [01:25] http://www.tenso.com/ [01:25] what the balls is this [01:26] i think it's called a proxy site [01:26] man chinese stuff is really...happy [01:26] http://www.tenso.com/en/ [01:26] Everything is just sort of in your face and huge [01:26] yeah [01:26] I have a question [01:27] Say I order from banggood to uk (its china) [01:27] Are there import taxes and shit? [01:27] I've heard of customs keeping hold of items and such in other countries [01:27] uhm i dont know how the uk does that kind of stuff [01:27] same ;-; [01:27] but i had to pay taxes [01:27] but [01:27] I dont mind taxes at the checkout [01:27] it was waaaaay cheaper [01:28] I just dont want any shit after I've brought from banggood [01:28] 75GBP and free shipping for a white poker 2? couldnt get a better pricee [01:40] gamax92 (~gamax92@REDACTED) joined #love [01:40] "Cannot create canvas: width of 256 pixels is too large for this system." [01:40] =( [01:40] i feel like this is rather wrong for my system [01:40] original gameboy? [01:41] hah [01:41] >_> Maximum texture width is 0 [01:42] plenty of space to work with \o/ [01:42] slime: why is it if i don't create a window i cannot work with canvases? [01:42] because canvases need an opengl context, which needs a window [01:45] so can't do headless stuff? [01:45] unless you can get a headless opengl context [01:45] you can, just not using love.graphics [01:45] lpghatguy: that's not really possible in Windows [01:45] yay Windows! [01:46] Fran__ (~Fran@REDACTED) joined #love [01:46] Well, it's nearly impossible to run Windows headless so creating a window shouldn't be a problem [01:46] What about on Linux? [01:46] (and kinda iffy on Linux, IIRC) [01:46] it's really easy in OSX though [01:46] although SDL doesn't expose a way to do it directly [01:47] http://renderingpipeline.com/2012/05/windowless-opengl/ [01:47] looks... relatively possible on steam? [01:49] Francisco (~Fran@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [01:50] steam? [01:52] Waffles (~SoggyWaff@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [01:52] steamos? [01:53] SteamKernel? [01:54] err [01:54] lol [01:54] was buying steam games [01:55] Linux, it looks possible [02:11] 1) make ffi bindings for Cairo [02:11] 2) ??? [02:11] 3) profit [02:14] kyle__1 (~Kyle_Emme@REDACTED) joined #love [02:14] madoka, do you have a binding for cairo? [02:14] lpghatguy: no [02:15] shouldn't be particularly complex to make dumb bindings for, though [02:16] So in terms of building your way up by making something simple [02:16] What would be a good game to make with c++? [02:16] Pong? [02:16] Something that covers a pretty large area [02:16] What complexity? [02:16] Eh, mario? [02:16] Maybe some kind of rpg [02:17] shorefire, why? [02:17] Something that includes some form of physics other than left/right, collision, levels, animation [02:17] JezK: Because I need a project [02:17] finish one of your existing projects [02:17] I have nothing to finish really [02:17] finish your cool blob game [02:17] floof! [02:17] I dont feel like doing Lua [02:17] lol [02:17] rewrite it in C++ [02:17] I might [02:17] add a feature to LOVE [02:17] then rewrite it back into lua when you realise C++ is horrible [02:17] lpghatguy: I dont know of anything that I could do/love needs [02:17] JezK: I love c++ [02:18] more than Lua [02:18] video encoding [02:18] cyphase (~cyphase@REDACTED) joined #love [02:18] that doesnt sound fun [02:18] all you need is love [02:18] liquid physics (I tried to integrate LiquidFun and it was a nightmare) [02:18] lol [02:18] well you could probably implement liquid physics with love.physics [02:19] It would be slow [02:19] LiquidFun is Box2D + some more [02:19] Doubt it [02:19] http://www.quantumyeti.com/blog/box2d-fluid-part-1 [02:19] People have done it before without issue [02:19] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCxmS5IrMRo [02:19] make a verlet physics engine for love [02:19] how accurate is the simulation compared to LiquidFun, which simulations static and dynamic pressure and all that crap? [02:20] lpghatguy: I've not been through it all so I'm not sure [02:20] looks pretty great though [02:20] looks like fun [02:20] https://github.com/omgware/fluid-simulator-v2 [02:21] pretty neat [02:22] ever play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57o_GG5U-ew [02:22] no [02:22] looks weird lol [02:22] what was edmund mc'millans game called? [02:22] the blob one [02:23] gish [02:23] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTcqZhQnrXw [02:23] I'd like to try and implement something like that with love.physics [02:23] I tried before but it didnt go well [02:24] shorefire, box2d isn't very good for that stuff [02:24] need verlets [02:24] What is a verlet? [02:24] it's an integration method for physically-simulated systems [02:24] oh [02:25] http://subprotocol.com/system/introducing-verlet-js.html cute [02:25] huh [02:25] that looks awesome [02:26] http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/131313/advanced_character_physics.php?print=1 good article sadly the images are missing D: [02:26] Implementing something like that is wayyyy out of my scope [02:27] it's actually surprisingly simple [02:27] For you :p [02:27] compared to box2d style physics engines [02:27] although i couldn't figure out how to do friction well [02:28] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verlet_integration [02:28] lol [02:28] its like a alien language [02:28] that physics engine is super cool [02:28] I should make one like it [02:29] verlet physics is awesome for constraint solving, and softbody stuff [02:29] everything is soft to an extent [02:30] hmm you can do hard stuff too [02:30] that spider thing [02:30] is creepy [02:30] the spider walker is a known method of building a walker [02:31] when people talk about physics, i think of the powder toy [02:31] http://subprotocol.com/system/verlet-hello-world.html [02:31] why are these shapes so fragile [02:31] not sure [02:32] only using distance constraints [02:32] I pick up the sphere and it immediately implodes, lol [02:32] yep =\ [02:33] a lot of the distance constraints just aren't working it looks like [02:33] different stiffness [02:34] maybe they should be uniform [02:54] az2yn (~az@REDACTED) joined #love [02:55] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pquYAEfbBFM [02:56] Astronomancy (~Astro@REDACTED) joined #love [02:57] Th0masR0ss (~oftc-webi@REDACTED) joined #love [02:57] hi [02:58] I'm building LÖVE (from source) on OS X but `configure` stops here: `configure: error: LÖVE needs "OpenGL", please install "OpenGL" with development files and try again`. To my knowledge, there's no way to install OpenGL, it comes with XCode (which i have) [02:59] Talk to slime [02:59] ok... [03:00] ...if he's around [03:00] Action: lpghatguy waves his arms around for the mythical being to step forth and assist the mac user [03:00] slime is a myth? [03:00] legendary? [03:00] as much of a myth as cthulu [03:01] hi [03:01] hello! [03:01] I am a mac user but I can't help because I never build love any more [03:01] Waffles (~SoggyWaff@REDACTED) joined #love [03:01] sorry! [03:02] :< [03:03] am i supposed to just put /Applications/love/MacOS in my PATH? [03:03] hi [03:03] s/MacOS/Contents/MacOS [03:03] the configure script is only meant for linux [03:03] you [03:03] darn. [03:03] you'll need to use the xcode project (either via xcode.app or xcodebuild in the terminal) [03:03] also before you do that you'll need to put the right frameworks into /Library/Frameworks/ [03:04] oh. [03:04] how good is using LÖVE to make music [03:04] basically copy everything from the official 0.9.1's framworks (except for love.framework) from love.app/Contents/Frameworks/ to /library/Frameworks/ [03:04] frameworks * [03:05] Th0masR0ss (~oftc-webi@REDACTED) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:06] Th0masR0ss (~oftc-webi@REDACTED) joined #love [03:07] umm... did i miss anything? [03:07] what was the last line you saw [03:07] 02:04 <+slime> basically copy everything from the official 0.9.1's framworks (except for love.framework) from love.app/Contents/Frameworks/ to /library/Frameworks/ [03:07] 02:04 <+slime> frameworks * [03:07] build xcode project [03:08] oh wait. logs. [03:09] one day I hope to have a linux version of fakesg [03:09] ...what is fakesg? [03:09] hi guys, I am building a pure-lua implementation of imagefonts because I have a user whose imagefonts don't work [03:09] zwzsg (CGI273@REDACTED) joined #love [03:10] hi lpghatguy, it's swordgirls [03:10] you can run it on linux if you install the right version of luasec [03:10] sharpobject: is it a card based game [03:10] yes [03:15] should i just put love.app/love in my PATH? [03:15] hi [03:15] you don't need to, but it makes launching love easier if you do it from the terminal [03:16] (also, is there a reason for building love from source?) [03:16] because i wanted to use it from the terminal ;p [03:16] you definitely don't need to rebuild love to do that [03:16] i guess ill just put it in my PATH [03:16] yeah [03:22] http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1415930301786.png [03:22] this is with love2d [03:22] http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1415931419728.webm [03:23] what is that? [03:23] fuccboi, nice [03:23] a game some dude is working on [03:23] he said he changed love2d to be 3d [03:24] Astronomancy (~Astro@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:24] just renamed it and it was done [03:26] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M31fr4IZlPs [03:26] how did he make it 3d [03:26] this girl has such a cute drunk voice [03:27] http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1415931864622.png [03:27] Th0masR0ss i dont know youll have to ask him [03:27] link to the game? [03:28] no idea [03:29] Th0masR0ss (~oftc-webi@REDACTED) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:30] Waffles (~SoggyWaff@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [03:37] jellysnake (~jelly@REDACTED) joined #love [03:44] JezK http://gatedev.tumblr.com/ [03:45] cool [03:46] looks nice [03:53] pseudo3d everywhere [03:56] what about real 3d [03:56] http://puu.sh/cMJwF/b0288724fb.png works great [03:56] madoka: can has? [03:58] gamax92: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ezmssxpf4a1yd89/game-dist.zip?dl=0 / https://love2d.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=78943 [03:58] is that fog I see [03:58] lpghatguy: only the ghettoest. [03:58] lol [03:59] i love the lack of linux binary [03:59] linux binary is hard [03:59] distributing linux bins is horse shit [03:59] so, people can build themselves. [03:59] but i can't build it myself [03:59] regrettable [03:59] why not [03:59] you're on linux [03:59] it's like four commands [03:59] i don't have enough space to store g++ [03:59] or gcc [04:00] infact there are like minimal -dev packages [04:00] ...how are you using linux [04:00] on a 486 [04:00] does your system support GL2.1? [04:00] no [04:00] then you couldn't run it anyway [04:00] It has an ATI Mach64 VT [04:00] oh [04:00] yeah uh [04:00] get a real computer [04:00] my machine is fake? [04:01] yes. [04:01] you are fake [04:01] your system sounds older than me [04:01] this thing requires a GPU from preferably this decade [04:01] this millenium [04:01] ^ [04:01] that GPU is from the early 90s [04:02] >_> how do you even get the source ... [04:03] mfw someone here is running a computer that is like 20 years old [04:04] orly [04:04] ima get my 21 year old computer [04:04] "configure: error: cannot find install-sh, install.sh, or shtool in platform/unix "."/platform/unix" [04:04] and connect it to IRC [04:04] gamax92, i seriously thought this was ocbots [04:04] you do need autotools [04:04] i am blind [04:05] madoka: thats's already installed [04:05] madoka, here is a cookie http://ptoast.tk/logo/vwmYC.png [04:05] ping: gradient text with a drop shadow, just for me [04:05] ping: I feel so special [04:06] Action: madoka 's heart warms to about 6C [04:06] > just for you [04:06] pfft [04:06] madoka: but yeah autotools is installed [04:06] > to about 6C [04:06] isn't that like hot [04:06] no. [04:07] it's ~42F [04:07] oh [04:07] madoka: but yeah autotools is installed [04:07] no [04:07] its not [04:07] well I sure didn't mean 6 times the speed of light [04:09] "my heart has warmed to the temperature that it would reach traveling 6 times the speed of light" [04:09] that's passion [04:10] so, madoka has passion for ping's gradient text and drop shadow? [04:10] Abregado_ (~Abregado@REDACTED) joined #love [04:11] Mso150 (~Mso150@REDACTED) joined #love [04:11] something like that? [04:12] Waffles (~SoggyWaff@REDACTED) joined #love [04:12] i guess i can [04:12] 't actually compile love3d [04:13] oh, i just noticed "Failed, sadface" [04:16] kyle__ (~Kyle_Emme@REDACTED) joined #love [04:17] http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/13/7213819/your-bowling-shirt-is-holding-back-progress [04:21] Anyone know any algorithms to do this? http://i.stack.imgur.com/Pb8pZ.png [04:21] kyle__1 (~Kyle_Emme@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [04:21] stack? [04:22] That is, group empty space into square pieces that are the largest possible [04:22] fuccboi, I like how two moderators immediately back up the article [04:23] i have had to install so many libs, libphysfs-dev, libvorbis-dev, libmpg123-dev, libmodplug-dev, libsdl2 and devs [04:26] lpghatguy isnt that a quad tree? [04:26] but it contains no elements in any of the tree pieces [04:26] I have a friend who wants to use blocks to fill an area divided up by lines [04:27] kyle__ (~Kyle_Emme@REDACTED) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:29] az2yn (~az@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [04:29] fuccboi: that post annoyed the hell out of me earlier [04:29] we land on a fuckin comet [04:29] madoka: so i got it compiled [04:29] and you guys are busy WITH SOME DUDE'S SHIRT [04:29] WHO CARES [04:29] dude looks like he either just doesn't care or lost a bet. whatever. [04:30] oh i found the binary [04:30] since you didn't give up, what gpu are you really using [04:30] ATI Radeon HD 4770 [04:30] yeah that should be fine [04:30] definitely [04:31] and installed! :D [04:32] jellysnake (~jelly@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [04:32] fun fact, its not fine. [04:33] madoka: http://i.imgur.com/l9YvBtO.png [04:33] oh, don't use mesa. [04:33] >_> what [04:33] forgot to mention that. [04:33] >_> [04:33] is there a make uninstall [04:33] it's both a love issue and a mesa issue [04:33] how am i supposed to "not use mesa" [04:34] the love issue is where the #extension goes, the mesa issue is that it hasn't got gpu_shader4 [04:34] well you should be able to use amd binary drivers for that card [04:34] which would work. [04:34] no [04:34] they do not [04:34] ah, you're screwed then. [04:34] but! [04:34] the cube test screen should work [04:34] you aren't totally out of luck with 3d :P [04:34] lost_RD (~quassel@REDACTED) joined #love [04:34] after doing all of the work to get them installed, which is painful, then love2d is breoken [04:35] no, the post processing shader is broken. [04:35] no [04:35] it's not the whole thing [04:35] madoka what bothers me more is that there were women scientists on that mission yet instead of focusing on them and using them to encourage other women those sites keep focusing on stuff like this [04:35] madoka: yes it is. [04:35] on the binary drivers, love will keep flipping between a garbage screen and what the actual screen should be [04:35] it also inits to a garbage screen [04:35] gamax92: the cube test thing should be totally fine on mesa [04:35] fuccboi, welcome to media like HuffPost Women and The Verge [04:36] the only thing that depends on not-mesa is gameplay itself, because of the post processing shader [04:36] and test, which uses the same shader [04:36] (wow! Shadow of Mordor's "Ultra" option requires 6GB of video memory) [04:36] madoka: can i disable the shader? [04:36] (jesus christ) [04:37] gamax92: it can be disabled if you edit the thing out [04:37] (i was trying to play "to the moon" yesterday but even that game had fps drops. this bnotebook sucks :() [04:37] gamax92: it's on the bucket list of things I should give an option for [04:37] fuccboi: you're kidding right [04:37] that game should run on a toaster [04:38] i am not [04:38] CrackedP0t (~CrackedP0@REDACTED) joined #love [04:40] at least coding isnt slow [04:45] ping: what just happened to esper? [04:45] works for me [04:45] CapsAdmine (~CapsAdmin@REDACTED) joined #love [04:54] Mso150 (~Mso150@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [04:57] jellysnake (~jelly@REDACTED) joined #love [05:04] az2yn (~az@REDACTED) joined #love [05:06] Waffles (~SoggyWaff@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [05:06] NightKawata (~Kawata@REDACTED) joined #love [05:07] http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2m6lcs/code_tells_you_how_comments_tell_you_why/ [05:07] that top comment [05:07] why does everyone just jumps to making functions all the time [05:08] Kawata_ (~Kawata@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [05:12] https://leanpub.com/gameinhaskell [05:12] the turbonerds are at it again [05:30] Vornicus (~vorn@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:32] whee [05:32] upgrading my nexus 7 to android 5 [05:32] IT'S HAPPENING [05:42] deniska (~denis@REDACTED) joined #love [05:43] ooh it's out? [05:45] gamax92 (~gamax92@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:45] Anyone have any good articles on timestep, update and draw order, etc? [05:48] http://gafferongames.com/game-physics/fix-your-timestep/ [05:48] ty [05:59] http://gafferongames.com/game-physics/integration-basics/ also good intro to basic vector movement [06:04] NightKawata (~Kawata@REDACTED) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:07] kyle__ (~Kyle_Emme@REDACTED) joined #love [06:07] Trying to get detla time here [06:07] which I am terrible with [06:07] do I get the elapsed time in microseconds or milliseconds? [06:09] in love? [06:09] love.timer.getDelta() [06:09] no [06:10] seconds. [06:10] alright [06:10] accurate to the nearest [06:10] 2.9e-05 [06:11] Is that a normal dt value? [06:11] 2.9 seconds is a long time [06:11] is that the first one? [06:11] I..dont think thats 2.9 seconds [06:11] that isn't 2.9 seconds [06:11] e-05 yo [06:11] oh right, didn't see the e [06:11] what is it? [06:11] is it correct? [06:11] small [06:11] probably [06:11] (games running at a very very high fps) [06:11] oh awesome [06:11] hi [06:12] \o [06:12] yo kyle__ [06:12] Woo made some more assets! [06:12] http://cl.ly/image/0v1F2h051p0I [06:13] cardboard (~cardboard@REDACTED) joined #love [06:21] ooh the towerfall devblog is awesome [06:23] http://towerfall.tumblr.com/?tag=DarkWorldExpansion lots of interesting little things [06:25] Awesome [06:25] THat game is pretty slick. [06:25] yeah, heaps of fun and looks and sounds beautiful [06:27] shingshang (~shingshan@REDACTED) joined #love [06:28] jellysnake (~jelly@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [06:29] jellysnake (~jelly@REDACTED) joined #love [06:40] cyphase (~cyphase@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: cyphase.com [06:53] deniska (~denis@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [06:59] jellysnake (~jelly@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [07:00] how do you guys feel about doc pages that go endlessly [07:00] ...what do you mean by that? [07:00] I love extensive documentation [07:00] infinite docs? [07:00] do you prefer it like this http://impactjs.com/documentation/class-reference [07:01] where each thing has its page [07:01] or like this [07:01] i'd prefer one page so i can jump around quickly and search in page [07:01] I prefer multiple pages so I can come back to specific doc places more quickly [07:01] http://asciidoctor.org/docs/user-manual/ [07:02] or like this where its one page with a table of contents thingy [07:02] where you can just jump around [07:02] ok [07:02] so 1-1 [07:02] jellysnake (~jelly@REDACTED) joined #love [07:02] I like to be able to middle-click links and keep a page up to come back to instead of scrolling through a single page (because then I have like four tabs open to the same page) [07:02] especially if the docs have a search function [07:03] If you can, do both! [07:03] Wezthal (~Wezthal@REDACTED) joined #love [07:07] Red5py (~red5py@REDACTED) joined #love [07:13] you wana know what docs I fucking hate? [07:13] http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/docu/ these [07:13] its such a goddamn mess [07:13] those are just... ugly [07:14] yeah [07:14] wayy to much information all over the page [07:19] kyle__ (~Kyle_Emme@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [07:19] yep [07:26] kyle__ (~Kyle_Emme@REDACTED) joined #love [07:37] sla_ro|master (slamaster@REDACTED) joined #love [07:40] oh look, it's fuck this shit o'clock [07:41] Wezthal (~Wezthal@REDACTED) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:42] JezK: lol what [07:42] holy balls its almost 7am [07:42] I thought it was like 11pm [07:42] 17:45 here, nearly hometime [07:55] hobblygobbly (~hobblygob@REDACTED) joined #love [08:22] shorefire: no I ddin [08:22] ot [08:22] Ah ok [08:23] ddinot [08:24] atheistcat (~pacninja@REDACTED) joined #love [08:25] atheistcat: \o [08:25] \o/ [08:32] cardboard (~cardboard@REDACTED) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:36] atheistcat_ (~pacninja@REDACTED) joined #love [08:36] atheistcat (~pacninja@REDACTED) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:45] so my sublime has 3 different c++ syntax's [08:45] and its randomly changing them [08:53] http://wccftech.com/amd-public-mantle-sdk-coming-year-nvidia-intel-free/ [08:53] JezK (~jez@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: :q! 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[09:14] Shviller (~Shviller@REDACTED) joined #love [09:25] slime: finally [09:28] Woop woop http://cl.ly/image/0p3S2a030K0V [09:32] atheistcat_ (~pacninja@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:33] ghoulsblade (~ghoul@REDACTED) joined #love [09:46] Heimdalson (~ikaros@REDACTED) joined #love [10:09] Francisco (~Fran@REDACTED) joined #love [10:13] sla_ro|master (slamaster@REDACTED) left irc: [10:14] Fran__ (~Fran@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [10:27] sora (~quassel@REDACTED) joined #love [10:28] Fran__ (~Fran@REDACTED) joined #love [10:30] lu324 (~stuff@REDACTED) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:30] lu324 (~stuff@REDACTED) joined #love [10:31] riidom (~Riidom@REDACTED) joined #love [10:31] Francisco (~Fran@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [10:36] CrackedP0t (~CrackedP0@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [10:42] CapsAdmine (~CapsAdmin@REDACTED) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:52] Mso150 (~Mso150@REDACTED) joined #love [11:08] hmans (~hmans@REDACTED) joined #love [11:11] CalinLeafshade (~Steve@REDACTED) joined #love [11:15] kraftman (~kraftman@REDACTED) joined #love [11:15] mongrol (~user@REDACTED) joined #love [11:16] r [11:16] mornin [11:20] BanLour (~oftc-webi@REDACTED) joined #love [11:21] hello :D [11:21] hi [11:22] razieliyo (~razieliyo@REDACTED) joined #love [11:22] rmcode (~rmcode@REDACTED) joined #love [11:23] \o [11:23] I'm fairly sure the synopsis here is wrong? http://www.love2d.org/wiki/love.quit [11:23] Just wanted to double check before I change anything. [11:25] I have no idea :| [11:28] Well imo the callback shouldn't (can't) return anything? [11:30] i did a quick test and it seems to be right [11:30] mongrol (~user@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [11:30] if you call love.event.quit() it triggers function love.quit() [11:31] if you return true from love.quit() then it cancels the quit [11:32] mongrol (~mongrol@REDACTED) joined #love [11:32] (see http://www.love2d.org/wiki/love.run for details) [11:33] I see [11:34] is it just me, or is the wiki article confusing then? [11:34] nothing a small note can fix though [11:34] how so? [11:38] Zer0|phone (~Zer0@REDACTED) joined #love [11:39] Probably because I was confused :D [11:39] the example could probably be a bit better [11:39] I thought about it like the other löve functions where you would literally do "foo = love.something.something" [11:40] yeah the example could make it more clear [11:40] phul (~phul@REDACTED) joined #love [11:40] hi [11:40] huys [11:41] sora (~quassel@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [11:41] hi phul [11:42] mm [11:42] i am wondering [11:42] how i can make winning conditions [11:42] or loosing :< [11:42] what kind of game? [11:42] 2d platform versus game [11:42] right now i just say [11:42] if mode == "versus" then [11:43] if -- only 1 player left do stuff [11:43] end end [11:43] <.< [11:44] i need to loop to the player list right? and see if only 1 player is left "alive" [11:45] because releasing a prototype with no winning or loosing condition seems stupid [11:45] :< [11:45] are there scores? or just the other player dies? [11:45] in versus its just ohter player that dies [11:46] then yeah i guess just check who's dead [11:46] kraftman: What do you think about this http://hastebin.com/egenacobod.lua as an example on the love.quit wiki [11:47] yo rmcode [11:47] hola! [11:47] possibly a little more complicated then it needs to be [11:48] hmans (~hmans@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com [11:50] AFAIK the love module only contains tables(graphics/physics) and callback functions (load/update/quit) while all non-callback functions are inside those tables [11:51] I phrased that badly [11:54] I also don't see what's wrong with the current love.quit wiki page [11:55] hmans (~hmans@REDACTED) joined #love [11:58] nothing [11:58] it could just be more clearer / use a better example - that's all [12:15] Zer0|phone (~Zer0@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [12:24] oh I found my account / password problem [12:24] love2d wiki and forum seems not support IPv6 login ... [12:24] I successfully logged from IPv4 (from office) [12:33] mongrol (~mongrol@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Connection reset by beer [12:33] rmcode (~rmcode@REDACTED) left irc: [12:36] Are there any "canonical" Lua/Löve style guides out there? [12:37] I've been CamelCasing my class-like tables and lowercasing their "instances". I see some people do the same, but others not. [12:38] I'm not even too fond of the CamelCasing, but it does solve namespacing conflicts in some situations... [12:41] i tend to camelcase function and snakecase variables [12:41] hmm not snake case [12:42] what ever you call this: thisVariable [12:42] i snake case and caps globals [12:45] Yeah, makes sesne [12:45] sense* [12:45] oh, aparently its UpperCamelCase and lowerCamelCase [12:45] I'm now seeing the "official" Lua styleguide recommends CamelCasing tables that are used like classes [13:04] i dont do any of those [13:04] get confused [13:04] reread my code [13:04] see stupid stuff [13:05] fix stupid stuff [13:05] can be super annoying but i still like it this way [13:05] >_> [13:05] hmans (~hmans@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… [13:06] Mso150 (~Mso150@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [13:08] phul: what do you do then? [13:08] all lovercaps [13:08] lower* [13:08] :D [13:08] my code isnt readable for other people [13:08] :( [13:13] well thats not ideal [13:13] why not [13:13] i reread my code and find stupid stuff i wrote [13:13] month ago [13:18] ugh [13:18] someone asks me for tips on music [13:18] D: [13:20] done! [13:20] hueg list of muewsix [13:20] Red5py (~red5py@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de [13:22] urraka (~urraka@REDACTED) joined #love [13:22] phul: everyone does that [13:23] but its a good idea to try and make your code readable [13:23] well [13:25] jellysnake (~jelly@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [13:26] Neppy (~kvirc@REDACTED) joined #love [13:31] hmans (~hmans@REDACTED) joined #love [13:31] they are the same [13:31] O_O [13:31] what are? [13:31] neppy [13:31] and hmans [13:31] :D [13:32] pew excessive quick list [13:32] of music i like to introduce other people to [13:32] D: [13:32] wat [13:32] MUSIC [13:32] sounds that sound nice together [13:32] if i override the method of a base class is there some way to access to the overriden method? [13:33] I think you'd typically save a reference to the old method and then just call it from within the new method. [13:33] yep [13:33] kinda like that [13:33] cool cheers [13:34] Hm, in Lua, what's the established pattern to do 'mixin' style programming? [13:35] ie, instead of "inheriting" a table from a class-like table, I'd like to start with a naked table and then compose functionality into it. I know I can just define new functions on the table at runtime, but that kind of feels fugly [13:35] so like have a class that has methods from other classes? [13:35] I'd like to do something like copyallfunctionsintoanothertable(source_table, destination_table) [13:35] No, I want to compose from multiple classes/modules/mixins. [13:36] kind of like how the include statement from Ruby. [13:36] include/extend [13:36] could you not just loop through the source tables methods and add them to the dest table? [13:36] I guess I could just manually walk through the source table and copy all keys over [13:36] yeah [13:36] Yeah, but it just feels like something that already has a language feature available (similar to setmetatable) [13:37] I may be wrong, of course. I usually am :) [13:37] kinda like multiple inheritance? [13:37] yes. [13:37] hmm, havent tried it but theres a guide in the lua book [13:37] I'll check, thanks [13:37] maybe you can tailor it to your needs [13:37] http://www.lua.org/pil/16.3.html [13:39] Ah, interesting [13:40] I think I'll go the first route though -- constantly iterating through tables to look up method dispatch doesn't sound like the kind of overhead I want to have [13:40] this playlist is too long [13:40] >_< [13:40] BTW, Lua is great. [13:41] I've been doing Ruby for the last 9 years, and Lua is the first language that clicks with me in a similar fashion. [13:44] how old are you hmans [13:44] D: [13:44] Very. [13:44] very [13:44] above 20 and below 30 [13:44] Hah. I'm 38 :)~ [13:44] 20 :< [13:44] HAH [13:45] fuck you are old [13:45] D: [13:45] :( [13:45] 25 [13:45] :D [13:45] i am [13:45] MotK is such a nice band [13:45] >_< [13:46] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIKlV3Hq0W0 [13:46] sebbu (~sebbu@REDACTED) joined #love [13:47] hmans: i tried rails recently, i really dont get symbols [13:47] I know what you're saying :) [13:47] I've been teaching Rails (and Ruby) for the last couple of years. Symbols always throw people off. [13:48] everything else seems fairly normal [13:48] symbols= [13:48] then suddenly, symbols [13:48] There is a very simple explanation of them that makes total sense _if_ you know how memory management works, but a lot of people starting out obviously don't. [13:49] what are symbls? [13:49] (in Ruby, "foo" and "foo" are two separate objects containing the same text; but :foo and :foo are exactly the same object, existing only once in the process's heap) [13:49] i_i [13:49] O¯O [13:49] wat [13:49] and they're global? [13:49] kraftman, yup [13:51] you really only use them for referencing hash keys and the likes. In a lot of situations (especially in Rails), you could just as well use strings, but then every time you use a string, Ruby will create a new object on the heap, over and over again, even if the string _contents_ are the same -- and your app will end up using more memory (and taking longer to garbage collect objects) [13:52] ~~ [13:52] any1 here who likes EDM? :< [13:52] whats EDM [13:52] Electronical Dance Music [13:52] the giant term for everything thats barely danceable [13:52] and made with putaz [13:53] who wouldn't like EDM? :) [13:53] https://soundcloud.com/villa-kunterbunt/sets/fusion-2014 [13:53] for anyone [13:53] 195 hours [13:53] fusion festival~<3 [13:54] 195 hours? [13:54] its a 5 1/2 day festival [13:54] with 18 stages [13:54] playing music 24/7 [13:54] so this isnt even all of it [13:54] its just the edm part [13:54] ranging from experimental to minimal over psytrance [13:55] goa [13:55] you can also listen to hip hop and rock there [13:55] cool [13:55] leaving :/ [13:55] BYE BANLOUR D: [13:55] I LOVE UUU~ [13:55] I'll miss you everyone [13:55] BanLour (~oftc-webi@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Page closed [13:55] track 64 is pretty dope [13:55] dj zen live mix [13:55] but its super trancy [13:55] :D [13:56] do i need to be trippin on some drugs first? :P [13:56] you never need to be trippin [13:56] its not super trance goa psychadelic ufta ufta [13:56] its enjoyable without any kind of enhancers [13:56] :P [13:58] i just found a trip hop playlist in the huge edm playlist [13:58] DAFUCK [13:58] nucular (~BAAH@REDACTED) joined #love [13:59] phul: have you heard the taylor swift/aphex twin mashup? [14:00] yes [14:04] hmans: so its a global label for some address in memory, which doesnt actually have anything stored? [14:06] kraftman, pretty much [14:07] 1000.times { puts(foo[:bar]) } # only one instance of :bar created [14:07] music~ [14:07] 1000.times { puts(foo['bar']) } # 1000 new string objects containing 'bar' [14:07] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KPxkZo9Wqg ~ [14:07] cool [14:08] Keep in mind that in plain Ruby, :bar and 'bar' are separate objects, so they're also separate hash indices. (When you use Rails, you can use both to reference each other, because ActiveRecord overrides some stuff in the Hash class to make that work) [14:09] I don't know how Lua does it internally, but I assume that foo['bar'] will also keep creating objects (which are a lot more light-weight than in Ruby), while foo.bar will be more optimized. [14:09] phul: that djzen stuff reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mkuyhr9ojMA [14:10] phul: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMNSI5_XFPM&feature=related ? [14:10] yeah im not sure what lua does either [14:14] Neppy: my guilty pleasure [14:14] : [14:15] phul: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baUY9LFlYh0 know that one? xD [14:16] anyone using sublime to code? [14:16] i am [14:16] I AM [14:16] ME ME [14:16] TAKE ME [14:16] lol [14:16] :D [14:16] me [14:16] sadly still [14:16] :p [14:16] can i add custom syntax highlighting? [14:16] Aconitin (Aconitin@REDACTED) joined #love [14:16] sure [14:16] dont ask em such fancy [14:16] D: [14:16] its just a super mega pain [14:16] but you can [14:16] lol [14:16] great [14:17] well i have nothing else to do today [14:17] i should switch to atom some day [14:17] that the the one from github? [14:17] but i havent found a good project manager plugin for it yet [14:17] uhm [14:17] well its opensource, so its on git i think xD [14:17] not sure what you mean "from github" [14:17] i think the guys that made github made it [14:18] if its the same one im thinking of [14:18] http://atom.io/ ? [14:18] "At GitHub, we're building the text editor we've always wanted." [14:18] ah :p [14:19] Zer0 (~Zer0@REDACTED) joined #love [14:19] reminds me [14:19] i wanted to learn mahjong someday~.~ [14:20] .tell Shorefire did you get the server running? I am back home and got my laptop now [14:20] the game itself? [14:20] mahjong? [14:20] D: [14:20] ya? [14:20] its pretty nice [14:20] :3 [14:20] but is onyl fun with a real mahjong set [14:20] then again, the issue is that its kind of the playing-against-others again [14:20] which i tend to not like [14:20] xD [14:21] its the best [14:21] i really started to know my girlfriends innerself because of versus games [14:21] her personality flips [14:21] :D [14:21] lol [14:21] i just dont like having to think about what someone else might do if i do X and such stuff haha, im terrilbe at it too :P [14:21] no more love, no more buddies, just enemies on the field [14:22] lost_RD (~quassel@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [14:23] ooo someone made a love2d pakcage for sublime [14:23] handy [14:24] ohh [14:24] neppy nop [14:24] xD [14:25] phul: your girlfriend isnt doing rinshan kaihou's (or however that was written :P) 24/7 i suppose though xD [14:27] godamn ferrets [14:27] biting my ankles [14:27] ferrets so cute [14:27] i still want a hedgehog someday [14:27] not cute [14:27] evil [14:27] https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BOGPXZ8Fm1s#t=681 [14:27] more like this [14:27] :< [14:28] but she's more like the guy [14:28] :D [14:28] wrong moment tho [14:28] :< [14:34] why is this so hard [14:34] what? [14:37] Wezthal (~Wezthal@REDACTED) joined #love [14:37] custom lua highlighting [14:37] becuz [14:37] lua [14:37] derr [14:37] cause sublime [14:38] im not sure how it even got so popoular XD [14:39] theres some nice stuff about it [14:39] re my earlier question about mixins, middleclass seems to have a nice implementation. [14:39] granted i dont use half of it [14:40] well there are usage wise [14:40] but its a pain if you want to make highlighting et c [14:44] that love2d package is v handy [14:51] x-stat be fancy [14:52] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkh842bxW54 [14:52] HUMP also has a decent class implementation with mixin support. [14:52] Man, I may be overthinking this stuff. [14:52] hmans: what are you making? [14:53] kraftman, the thing that I'm making is a silly little top-down space shooter thingy, but it's really just an exercise to get into Löve and Lua. [14:53] Neppy: so its a futuristic tampon? [14:54] :P [14:56] vividreality (~vividreal@REDACTED) joined #love [14:56] Good afternoon :) [14:56] And either good evening or good morning to everyone in other timezones than I. [14:57] good afternoooon [14:57] Hello kraftman, how are you doing? [14:58] good, you? [14:58] good afternoon [14:59] insert coffee to continue [14:59] hey, who's from Europe? Hamburg here. [14:59] I am doing pretty good. [14:59] Netherlands. [14:59] \o/ [14:59] Suomi Finland perkele [14:59] lol, perkele. [15:00] homeland of the best metal. [15:00] we're an hour ahead of you fellows [15:00] Korplikaani comes to mind. [15:00] bwehaha! [15:00] Korpiklaani*? [15:00] Isn't that what I said? [15:00] Korpli != Korpi [15:00] kaani != klaani [15:00] Ohhhh sorry, typo. [15:00] :D [15:01] it happens [15:01] It's my favorite band according to my last.fm [15:01] Except for maybe Equilibrium. [15:02] Oh, no. Korpiklaani is my #1 band :) [15:02] But that's just in playcounts alltime. [15:03] It's because I am such a happy little boozer. [15:03] ;) [15:03] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDsdkoln59A&list=UUCODtTcd5M1JavPCOr_Uydg [15:05] So what are you guys up to? [15:06] codin [15:06] What are you making? [15:06] hobblygobbly (~hobblygob@REDACTED) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:06] thinking coding [15:06] just a basic platformer [15:07] Cool :) [15:07] hobblygobbly (~hobblygob@REDACTED) joined #love [15:07] unek.love2d.pl/share/giera.love [15:07] http://unek.love2d.pl/share/giera.love [15:07] try my kewl game [15:07] i made something a few years ago that im trying to update [15:07] i just dont understand my old code [15:07] unek [15:07] they blink [15:07] D: [15:07] THEY ARE SO CUTE [15:08] phul: yeah [15:08] Action: Neppy stil wonders if redstone can be optimised with dynamic and static analysis and runtime optimizations of code [15:08] they're jelly [15:08] unek [15:08] buuut [15:08] the game starts fullscreen [15:08] and the game area isnt centered [15:08] ALSO [15:08] 4 players on 1 keyboard [15:08] what do i have? tiny hands? [15:08] :< [15:08] it was two [15:09] unek [15:09] you can jump out of the game [15:09] o_o [15:09] yes [15:09] Cute unek [15:09] I opened it [15:09] reminds me [15:09] it's more fun that way [15:09] vividreality: thanks [15:09] unek|christmas: how do i quit? [15:09] i still need a good and free image editor D: [15:09] alt+f4 [15:09] neppy: inkscape [15:09] kraftman: :wq! [15:09] kraftman: that'd be alt+f4 [15:09] neppy: krita [15:09] inkscape is nice for vector graphics, but pixel art I would recommend just gimp [15:09] can inkscape do rasterized? [15:10] yeah that's what I meant. [15:10] i hate gimp xD [15:10] inkscape is vector [15:10] D: [15:10] I use gimp all day erry day [15:10] if you want a tool thats pretty much like photoshop [15:10] but free [15:10] use krita [15:10] Ä·rita <3 [15:10] i'd like gimp, if it wasnt such a pain to use D: [15:10] unek|christmas: that is terrible advice! [15:10] that also writes everything [15:10] to the disk [15:11] just quitting would be :qa! [15:11] meklu: I just killall -9 [15:11] vividreality: like, why does every stupid filter have its own window wiht its own preview, that may or may not be the same preview as other filters? [15:11] gimp is easy to use [15:11] D: [15:11] just rm -rf [15:11] just show it on the damn canvas where i cna like actually see it [15:11] unek|christmas: you can spawncamp :< [15:11] unek|christmas: that better be the solaris killall [15:11] I don't know Neppy, I just like it :) [15:12] PDN is good with filters [15:12] but lacks other functions [15:12] phul: the map is shit [15:12] meklu: how do I know [15:12] phul: I am open for patches [15:12] phul: make a better map, send it back [15:12] make a nice change, send it back [15:12] unek busy with making meh own stuff [15:13] unek|christmas: if it kills absolutely every process on the system, you've got solaris killall [15:14] comes from psmisc [15:14] or something [15:15] josefnpat <3 [15:15] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1urscLw2NN0 [15:16] hmm multiple redstone pusles could be simplified by an event system :o [15:17] gah now ive broken my buidl system [15:17] :( [15:18] gaw [15:18] why would you do that [15:18] neppy no stop the minecraft [15:19] why lol [15:19] stahp [15:20] once i find something more interesting, i will [15:21] think of something more interesting [15:21] and make it [15:24] thinking of it isnt to ohard [15:24] making it is :P [15:24] then work on that [15:24] or i could have fun by playing MC [15:24] :D [15:24] working on probably impossible things isnt my cup of tea~ [15:25] krita crashed in 30s [15:25] xD [15:25] then u are 2 stewpid [15:25] :< [15:26] gg [15:26] indeed [15:26] ggwp nore [15:27] phul: plus what i'd want to make needs the same kind of thing :P [15:28] flexible runtime optimizations \o/ [15:28] whateva that is [15:28] kind of like if you were programming a computer in asm in minecraft [15:28] and it optimizes that for java [15:29] or you'D analyze a complex redstone system to simplify it into a set of commands, evnets and equations [15:29] and compile that as javacode [15:29] which you then load~ [15:31] and for what kind of game would u need that [15:31] :< [15:32] something like minecraft but simulated in more basic elements :D [15:33] probably 16 or 32 times the minecraft cube resolution [15:33] with each cube being an element~ elements being stuffl ike iron, copper etc [15:34] bit liek powdertoy i guess [15:34] o_o [15:34] Sounds good Neppy [15:34] i think taking a complex game (which minecraft is) [15:34] there are some issues with the idea haha [15:34] and making it MORE complex [15:34] isnt a good idea [15:34] lol [15:35] so you'd mine iron by finding it in veins and hitting it wiht something htat breaks off the iron blocks :p [15:35] thats not how mining for iron works [15:35] .-. [15:35] though unless you have a precision tool and lots of time [15:35] you'D get some stone blocks with it xD [15:36] thats why you'd build a machine that processes it for you though~ [15:36] a hot oven? D: [15:36] dunno, whatever works [15:36] a hot oven :D [15:36] but theres no "furnace" like in MC [15:36] if you want a furnace you have to build one that works that way xD [15:37] so any source of heat would heat its surroundings? [15:37] Catlinman (~Catlinman@REDACTED) joined #love [15:37] pretty much? [15:37] Sounds like a pleasant idea. [15:38] the big issues are that it needs lots of optimization to run well xD [15:38] plus the question [15:38] what is the player? [15:38] thats the last question [15:38] the player is steve [15:38] easy [15:39] haha :P [15:39] why would you bother with the question what the player is [15:39] anyway performance is the big issue of the idea [15:39] when you have so much optimizing to do? [15:39] phul: because everything works based on the cubes its mad eof [15:40] well just cut that for the player [15:40] if you wan tto have mobs you have to have some reasoning on them and the player [15:40] eh... [15:40] naah [15:40] anyway [15:40] i doubt its even possible to optimize that very well [15:40] why? [15:41] cause even minecraft is laggy D: then again iirc MC doesnt properly multithread XD [15:41] and i dont feel like learning C++ [15:41] minecraft wasnt laggy for me [15:41] :< [15:41] heavily modded mc? [15:41] yes [15:42] 150 mods? :o [15:42] why would i [15:42] even [15:42] want that [15:42] minecraft is badly written [15:42] cause its fun that way haha [15:42] and continues to be [15:42] yea [15:42] it runs better when you restrict the memory it can use [15:42] anyway [15:42] >~> [15:42] if you wanted to calcualte the temperature of a coupel tenthousand blocks in real time, that could be an issue xD so you have to find smarter ways haha [15:43] make the same blocks unite to 1 entity? [15:43] thats the idea [15:44] but well [15:44] dynamically [15:44] for all kinda of things ;) [15:46] i dont understand the use of the word "dynamically" here [15:47] why do girls call each ither to arrange to meet up to chat, then chat for 30 mins [15:48] ur meeting up, chat then [15:48] other* [15:51] cause girls? [15:53] haha [15:53] phul: meaning it shouldnt be a fixed structure like MC uses :P [15:54] sla_ro|master (slamaster@REDACTED) joined #love [15:54] isnt dynamic programming a delusional term? [15:56] Neppy: why would you need to calculate the temp of 10k+ blocks? [15:58] kraftman: well heat soruces give of heat [15:58] you have to calculate the heat effects on blocks in range [16:00] but only for the few nearest surely [16:00] sure [16:00] but for every block :p [16:00] onyl the ones emitting heat [16:03] kraftman: all blocsk emit heat? [16:03] ahh ok [16:03] if theres a 30°C and a 20° ones [16:03] they share :P [16:04] so transmit rather than emit? [16:04] i guess youc oudl simplify it as a falloff from the near heat emitters or something [16:04] yeah [16:04] yeah id probably just do the nearest few to the heat emitter and then forget it after that [16:04] anyway, its has to be dynamic, allowing you to build machines that work based on how you build them [16:06] but that isnt dynamic at all [16:06] atleast in my mind [16:09] phul: ? [16:10] dynamic meaning, to build a furnace you build something that can absorb lots of heat, and heat it and the blocks you try to melt will be affected by that becuase they are being heated by the temperature [16:11] but that is nto dynamic [16:14] its complex, im not sure if its dynamic [16:16] define "dynamic" :P [16:16] its dynamic because it adjusts to hwoever you build it [16:16] rather than having a static functioanlity given a static pattern [16:16] well [16:16] heatsource -> heats stuff [16:16] pretty static [16:16] isolation blocks -> isolate stuff [16:16] pretty static too [16:16] heaving a heatsource inside a closed chamber of isolating (or is it insolating?) [16:17] isolation blocks only isolate because they have properties making them so [16:17] blocks will build up heat [16:17] all matter isolate [16:17] and well heatsources cool down :P [16:17] some more, some less [16:17] then its just a duration [16:17] for example, dirt isolates pretty well [16:18] its dynamic in the sense of that you have t make sure it works, doesnt break (melting down etc), and depending on how you build it you get different kinds of things [16:18] doesnt mean you need dynamic programming for it [16:18] the uses might be various [16:18] i have no clue what you even call dynamic programming xD [16:18] you said [16:18] that you need dynamic programming [16:18] :< [16:19] i never said so [16:20] then my bad [16:22] well but still [16:22] what the player crafts with it [16:22] isnt for you to decide and prethink [16:22] you just make sure that the basic layouts are given [16:25] ? [16:26] the player crafts with what [16:26] xD [16:27] redstone was never intended for making massive computers [16:27] but it still is [16:27] given the simple I/O format its using [16:27] yeah but redstone is a dynamic system xD [16:28] how? [16:28] becuase you can build it however you want and its functioanlity emerges from the way you build it [16:28] rather than e.g. af urnace [16:28] which is defined in how you build it [16:28] and has a single defined functioanlity [16:28] given that you build a massive machine with redstone [16:28] its still just I/O [16:29] so? [16:29] i dont get your point [16:29] xD [16:29] i dont get yours [16:29] ?.? [16:29] a shell in supermario can be used to walljump to places where players cant normaly get [16:29] is that now dynamic too? [16:30] my point is that i want stuff to work based on how you build it [16:30] not primarily based on a piece of code [16:30] i understand that [16:30] but a heatsource is a heatsource [16:30] the heatsource is eseentially just a block that has more heat than its surroundings xD [16:31] i know that pretty well [16:31] so [16:31] whats the issue XD [16:31] i think we arent connecting here :3 [16:31] hy [16:31] hey [16:31] lets just stup it [16:31] heey [16:31] HEY UNEK [16:31] SUUP [16:31] HEEY PHUL [16:31] HOWRE YOU [16:31] FINE [16:31] N U? [16:32] HAHA GR8 [16:32] its dyanmic in the sense of that you build it in any way you like, and it works as a furance becuase you built it that way, it doesnt work becuase apiece of code says "oh, look a furnace, lets smetll stuff", but the code says "oh this is getting hot, lets melt it" [16:32] I'M MAD AT ME MAKING THIS SHITTY MENU [16:32] or something :p [16:32] SHOW YOUR PROGRESS [16:32] well I can give you my menuing library phul [16:32] i should work more on my level editor [16:32] but im lazy :< [16:32] unek|christmas: http://imgur.com/B7gTwwe [16:32] maybe i want that [16:33] not sure [16:33] this whole menu thing [16:33] is annoying me [16:33] ~~ [16:33] ewww [16:33] yea [16:33] thank you too [16:33] so many magic numbers [16:33] well yes [16:33] dat code D: [16:33] not extensible at all [16:33] the main menu has been riddled of magic numbers [16:33] :D [16:33] what i ment is [16:33] good god [16:33] the main menu doesnt have any magic numberz [16:33] :< [16:33] phul: want my menu library? [16:33] it's simple [16:33] unek yea [16:33] gimme link [16:33] maybe i will use it [16:34] and scrap this whole thing [16:34] it's vertical [16:34] it's not done yet [16:34] its bugged as hell [16:34] also it costs 5k bucks [16:34] err [16:34] jK? [16:34] no [16:34] D: [16:34] 4k [16:34] ah [16:34] cheap then [16:34] are plastic bucks ok? [16:34] doesnt have any metals arround [16:34] :< [16:34] ye [16:36] sec [16:36] phul: http://unek.love2d.pl/share/giera.love [16:36] check it out [16:36] if you like the menu unzip it [16:36] it's in the menu.lua file [16:37] the whole gamestate [16:37] i alredy got that [16:37] no you don't [16:37] just pushed the latest version [16:37] lines 140-149 are how the menu is built [16:37] then yuo just draw and update [16:37] actually no need to udpate [16:37] just keypressed [16:39] wow [16:39] that looks pretty simple [16:39] it is [16:39] but be prepared [16:39] I should change sub and sup to push and pop [16:41] Arrkangel (Arrkangel@REDACTED) joined #love [16:49] http://hastebin.com/ududuzukuk.lua [16:50] check out my super-simple menu lib [16:50] http://unek.love2d.pl/share/giera.love for demo (udpated 1 min ago) [16:51] cool [16:53] kyle__ (~Kyle_Emme@REDACTED) joined #love [16:57] OKAY [16:57] ok [16:57] i see [17:14] fuccboi (~oftc-webi@REDACTED) joined #love [17:14] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/11231320/Rosetta-mission-scientist-Dr-Matt-Taylor-cries-during-apology-over-offensive-shirt.html [17:15] hellol [17:15] Heimdalson (~ikaros@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [17:16] meh who really cares what the guy wears xD [17:16] apparently enough people that he cried over it [17:17] although if he cried over this then he's a little girl [17:17] i dont even see them wearing "bondage gear" [17:18] i wanna see hsi shirt [17:18] http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/13/7213819/your-bowling-shirt-is-holding-back-progress [17:18] aww poor guy [17:18] its not that bad [17:19] eh i dont see such things as "misoginy" [17:20] thats like saying people who like eating meat shouldnt be allowed to make it look good :P or something [17:20] these days talking about women is misogyny [17:20] so whatever [17:20] well [17:21] i think what we all understimate [17:21] is the power of the lobby that the feminist have [17:21] wouldb e a diff thing if it on purpose depicted a specific woman that didnt agree or something [17:21] and i think that they can put a huge pressure on you [17:21] im a neutralist :p [17:21] then you are on the side of equalists [17:21] who are feminists [17:21] ? [17:22] i dont care about what ia m xD im just neutral haha [17:22] but yeah equal is good [17:22] yea [17:22] take germany [17:22] take germany [17:22] taking* [17:22] edy (~edy@REDACTED) joined #love [17:22] we added that quota of you need XYZ% women [17:22] when we introduced that [17:22] Nick change: edy -> edy81 [17:22] there should have had to be the same rule for having XYZ% men [17:23] hi all love works now on raspbian [17:23] tell me 1 company that has less mens than the aimed quota for women in companies [17:23] i had to upgrade to jessie [17:23] phul: that doesnt matter [17:23] yes it does exactly matter [17:23] if you make a law for one, there has to be the law for the other [17:23] no there has not [17:23] there has to be [17:23] there is no law for the not pedophile [17:23] there is laws for pedophiles [17:24] there are? [17:24] exclusevly for NOTPEDOPHILES [17:24] ? [17:24] as in [17:24] "there are laws for pedophiles?" [17:24] there are special cases [17:24] anyway, what im saying is that if you put a minimum on the amount of women in a company, you hav eot put a minimum on the amount of men too [17:24] i feel love has update to love+porn [17:24] else the situation coudl flip [17:25] and law is slow to update [17:25] law is weird anyway xD [17:25] Neppy: what country ? [17:25] germany [17:25] haha [17:25] and i complain about spain [17:25] neppy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_ceiling [17:26] plus all-women companies arent exactly of interest either [17:26] phul: ? [17:26] read up [17:26] i know what that is [17:26] i dont see how it affects my point :P [17:26] ghoulsblade (~ghoul@REDACTED) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:26] the quota was forced into law in germany [17:26] because of glass ceiling problems [17:26] but it didnt fight it [17:26] i dont care about introducing the rule [17:26] i care about that there was only for oen side [17:26] :P [17:26] well porn industry never has a problem with women as workers [17:27] but women have a problem with porn industry [17:27] :D [17:27] yes [17:27] not all due [17:27] *do [17:27] not all do [17:27] ... [17:27] of course [17:27] :P [17:27] tue some love it [17:27] not all people have problems with fucking children either [17:27] some are just neutral and dont care abotu stuff that doesnt matter xD [17:27] plenty of girls like porn [17:27] phul: yeah i have a oopinion there that isnt very popular haha [17:28] its just a lazy excuse [17:28] ? [17:28] Lafolie (~quassel@REDACTED) joined #love [17:28] "i have just an unpopular opinion" [17:28] lazy excuse ofr what? xD [17:28] for not caring [17:28] i do care [17:28] not engaging [17:28] but that is bit like crossing a line even criminal have their laws in jails for this pigs [17:29] im just saying my view on that isnt very popular haha [17:30] tbh [17:30] the scientist [17:30] that made a huge project with rosetta and stuff [17:30] what about them ? [17:30] are super duper smart [17:30] atleast i think so [17:30] and wearing THIS PARTICULAR shirt [17:30] yea i seen it [17:30] at a interview [17:30] is just [17:30] meh he wore s hirt he liked [17:31] who cares [17:31] i mean yeah, he can chose to wear whatever he wants [17:31] society does [17:31] i think was cool [17:31] if you say "hey women are fine here" [17:31] and then depict gangrape [17:31] we only have thso eissues because our system is too rigid xD [17:31] here they only care about soccer [17:31] and hwo made the system [17:31] phul: it didnt depict gangrape though [17:31] Neppy: i know, i was overexaggerating it [17:31] phul: lots of people over lots of time :P thats partially why they arent fit anymore [17:32] edy81 phul Neppy how old are you guys? [17:32] just curious [17:32] if we had smaller "countries" [17:32] everyone could just ifnd the palce they like [17:32] 25 [17:32] 24 :P [17:32] 1981 - 2014 do the math [17:32] 12? [17:32] 33 [17:33] phul sucks at math [17:33] Neppy: and then one country gets really filled with person type A [17:33] edy81: wait [17:33] you died 2014? [17:33] and it needs more space [17:33] what then? [17:33] no [17:33] is the year on now [17:33] phul: then it expands :P i guess that will be less of an issue once we cna settle on differen tplanets [17:33] so in a time we both are dead? :3 [17:34] depends on how optimistic you are ;) [17:34] pretty optimistic [17:34] no if we make a thing like in demolition man [17:34] freeze in ice etc [17:34] we are gettign there @ extending life [17:35] or if we cheat death [17:35] vividreality (~vividreal@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:35] just lemme reprogram my body :< [17:35] oky [17:35] :3 [17:35] 1 try [17:36] haha :P [17:36] theres are so many improvements you could make [17:36] or if we make a way to copy our mind to new bodies [17:36] fuck i can come with ideas [17:36] even just stuff like making pain more useful [17:37] pain more useful i don't like pain [17:37] SoniEx2 (SoniEx2@REDACTED) joined #love [17:37] because it isnt very useful :P [17:37] unless in that a lua lib [17:37] useful pain would tell you the exactl ocation and cause instead of vague sginaling [17:38] also you could turn it off once you knew it hurts, since you'Re gonna go get it treated anyway [17:38] today your all so funny and active [17:38] (provided you'Re a smart person) [17:38] oh fuck fridays ofcourse [17:38] im just trying to find something to watch haha [17:38] and i still want something lik eIRL but in a sandbox [17:39] phul: lets do the timewarp [17:39] eirl ? [17:39] *like IRL [17:39] :P [17:39] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg-vgGuTD8A ~ [17:39] well i guess [17:39] RL in that case [17:39] im just used to type IRL haha [17:40] ireland ? [17:40] :D [17:40] :P [17:40] http://www.p4rgaming.com/why-gamers-expecting-game-companies-to-live-up-to-their-promises-is-ruining-the-industry/ [17:41] fuccboi: dat trollpost [17:41] becuase they make stupid alphas or becuase they make games with low content [17:41] phul: DFC > DLC [17:41] xD [17:42] ? [17:42] +1 [17:43] phul: you're not watching anime D: [17:43] it's not really tied to anime though, Neppy [17:43] tonight i have movie planned [17:43] z0rg: not directly [17:44] but its often there ;) [17:44] i dont get it [17:44] sorry [17:44] :< [17:44] delicious fried chicken [17:44] lol [17:44] wrong kinds of dfc xD [17:44] :P [17:44] (ssh, i know) [17:44] :3 [17:44] :3 [17:45] z0rg reminds me of z0r [17:45] as in z0r.de? [17:45] zork [17:45] ya [17:45] http://z0r.de/144 xD [17:45] it reminds me of the 5th element [17:45] 's evil guy [17:45] funny guy [17:46] but i never like the movie [17:46] he was producing oil from his head [17:46] could be useful [17:46] i think that was blood, even if it was so dark it looked like pudding [17:46] :p [17:47] ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh [17:47] lucky i had my meal long ago [17:47] reminds me [17:48] i still wish ic ould buy little blood capsules somewhere D: [17:48] they are made, but i haven't seen a store that would sell them either [17:49] ones that you put into your mouth and make them pop :3 [17:49] also i still wnat non-toxic cherry-flavoured thermal paste [17:49] and i havent tried hot coke and carbonated milk yet [17:49] would you settle for [17:49] non-toxic cherry-flavoured toothpaste? [17:49] nope [17:49] thermal paste :P [17:49] aww [17:50] reminds me though [17:50] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnyoJtv9Cx0 [17:51] wat [17:52] T~T [17:52] that hurts to watch neppy [17:52] :D [17:52] xD [17:53] lpghatguy (~LPGhatguy@REDACTED) joined #love [17:54] if only this would be all made of geeks [17:55] this world ... [17:57] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xciuYTeu4Qc ~ [17:58] how can i check a color of a pixel in framebuffer ? [17:58] getPixel most likely! [17:58] but i got a nil [17:58] random thought of the day: men are proably as stereotyped as women xD [17:58] deep man [17:58] on imagedata: [17:59] Ryusui (~Ryusui@REDACTED) joined #love [17:59] i mean you oftne see things like "dont be such apussy" or "be a man" or "men dont cry" or "pink? are you gaY?" and such stuff haha [18:00] yea but we don't say your being a sexist [18:00] edy81: by framebuffer, you mean a canvas, right? [18:00] or even "all men just want sex" or such :P [18:00] i'm on rpi no x11 [18:01] canvas:getImageData():getPixel(x,y) maybe [18:01] hm meh [18:01] still havnet found anything to watch [18:01] i try that then [18:01] watch lost [18:01] meh [18:01] 100s [18:01] what is meh [18:07] onomatopoeia for can't be arsed, or general discontent... i think [18:07] i'll just watch some cinema sins [18:08] the hobbit [18:18] shorefire (~shorefire@REDACTED) joined #love [18:18] Zer0: \o [18:20] Lafolie_ (~quassel@REDACTED) joined #love [18:20] .seen NikolaiResokav [18:20] .tell Zer0 No but you should see if you could get teeworlds working again, I've been hosting a server for my own mod on there \o/ [18:20] .tell shorefire sup [18:20] sup [18:20] orly [18:20] lol [18:22] guys can i run a game idea by you [18:22] hmans (~hmans@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… [18:23] kraftman: shoot [18:23] yo shorefire sup? [18:23] i was thinking about making a platformer with crafting like terraria/magicite [18:24] with good non tiny graphics ? [18:24] Hi phul [18:24] lol [18:24] i hate terraria i can't see the guy [18:24] with a different crafting system [18:24] instead of adding things together in certain combinations, you have a mold/template the vague shape of the item [18:25] and you fill in the mold with whatever materials you want [18:25] so you can design your own weapons etc [18:26] sorta like cubeworlds one? [18:26] havent played cubeworld [18:26] ill check it out [18:26] ah [18:26] it lets you basically draw blocks onto the weapon using different elements and such [18:26] ahh :( [18:27] then yeah liek that [18:27] cool^^ [18:27] didnt know it had been done [18:27] Lafolie (~quassel@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [18:27] eh in cubeworld you start with a basic weapon and add blocks to it [18:27] thats cool [18:27] https://plus.google.com/100122258637301707829/posts/CATiv31za6H [18:28] what you guys think about it? [18:28] is good? [18:28] for MS to do that? [18:28] it is [18:28] kraftman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugAlwlyEWGI [18:28] I hope they will get more open source [18:29] shorefire: ta, thats pretty mcuh what i was thinking but in 2d [18:29] sounds cool [18:30] can you swap weapons with people in cubeworld? [18:30] I think so [18:33] http://techrights.org/2014/11/12/openwashing-lockin/ [18:33] so yeah i was thinking resource gathering like terraria, but with multi worlds [18:34] and a few other bits [18:34] well [18:34] if you think about multiple "world" or servers, terraria is that already :3 [18:34] but [18:34] seen ort online? [18:34] defining centres of gravity, and building your map around those as worlds... could be interesting [18:35] ort online? [18:35] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llj2AeQ_nv4 [18:35] oort* [18:35] Looks great [18:36] looks cool [18:37] edy81 (~edy@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [18:38] think ill just give up now [18:38] lol why [18:38] cos ill never make anything that good :P [18:39] here's what i have so far if u wanna see [18:39] https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1695464/coding/DGL.love [18:39] arrow keys look around wasd moves [18:40] texture generation is dynamic and pretty slow [18:40] kraftman: looks ice [18:40] nice* [18:40] random generation? [18:41] yeah [18:41] sweet [18:41] random edges etc [18:41] a bit of tile tearing there :p [18:41] the cows however aree not [18:41] yeah :/ [18:41] Either floor your camera translation positions, or border the tiles [18:41] border? [18:42] If you extend the edge of the tiles it shouldnt do that [18:42] yeah [18:42] ok [18:42] uh [18:42] idk what its called [18:42] basically say the bottom left pixel of a tile is green [18:42] draw a green pixel to the left and bottom of it [18:43] (but do it for every pixel at the sides of the tile) [18:43] lol if you go up to space it continuously spawns cows [18:44] captainkraft_ (~captainkr@REDACTED) joined #love [18:44] haha [18:44] I went down too far and it crashed :p [18:44] lol [18:46] captainkraft_ (~captainkr@REDACTED) left irc: [18:52] been messing with magicka-esque spells too :) [18:53] shingshang (~shingshan@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [18:53] awesome^^ [18:53] ill call it magicarria [18:54] kraftman (~kraftman@REDACTED) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:55] Wezthal (~Wezthal@REDACTED) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:56] Wezthal (~Wezthal@REDACTED) joined #love [18:56] lol [18:57] damn heels are annoying [18:57] you shouldn't sound like a herd of horses walking down the hall [18:57] kyle__: going out in drag again tonight? [18:58] what the hell else am i gonna do in this redneck town [19:06] ygt-yoran (~ygt-yoran@REDACTED) joined #love [19:10] q66 (~q66@REDACTED) joined #love [19:27] automatik (~felix@REDACTED) joined #love [19:48] Mso150 (~Mso150@REDACTED) joined #love [19:53] zwzsg (CGI273@REDACTED) left irc: [20:08] hobblygobbly_ (~hobblygob@REDACTED) joined #love [20:12] leafo1 (~leafo@REDACTED) joined #love [20:12] windows lacks so much in its gui [20:12] i wish you could group windows [20:12] or make them stick edges together [20:14] hobblygobbly (~hobblygob@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [20:15] edy81 (~edy@REDACTED) joined #love [20:16] hi again i think i fixed the canvas.getpixel problem [20:17] but i was forced to unplug the rpi and hope all was fine [20:17] kneeko (~nico@REDACTED) joined #love [20:25] younishd (~younishd@REDACTED) joined #love [20:27] Lafolie_ (~quassel@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [20:29] is there anyway to kill a program that is in framebuffer ? [20:30] wat [20:31] i was forced to unplug my rpi [20:31] as my love game was looping forever [20:32] i wasn't able to user a second shell in my rpi [20:32] i don't use x11 in rpi [20:35] fuccboi, I named an orc after one of your nicks [20:35] meet paint-huffing shit-goblin http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/544135968651188147/A5AED0E16EDAE4A98049482E35D7CF340CBFD498/ [20:37] orcs in what game? [20:37] Shadow of Mordor [20:37] oh [20:54] bye for today [20:55] edy81 (~edy@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:14] markgo (~markgo@REDACTED) joined #love [21:20] ping (~alias@REDACTED) joined #love [21:23] Defaultti (defaultti@REDACTED) joined #love [21:38] I wanted to buy the current humble bundle, but I had -1€ in my bank account [21:39] Shorefire, I am on it [21:40] Zer0: on what? [21:40] getting teeworlds [21:40] ah ok ^^ [21:40] got it [21:52] Zer0: waa -1? [21:52] D: [21:54] they have a yearly fee (very small) that starts when you turn 18 [21:54] I had literally nothing in my account [21:54] so now I have less [21:56] :< [21:56] poor zer0 [21:56] which game do you want from le bundle? [21:56] every game [21:56] don't worry [21:56] I get about 100£ soon [21:56] or I have gotten [21:56] can i get blackguards then? [21:56] it's on my fridge [21:56] :3 [21:56] I just have not bothered cashing the check [21:57] automatik (~felix@REDACTED) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:59] cardboard (~cardboard@REDACTED) joined #love [22:01] kneeko (~nico@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [22:05] Nitinoca (Aconitin@REDACTED) joined #love [22:07] oh gawd [22:08] new sonic game looks awefull [22:09] Mso150 (~Mso150@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [22:12] Aconitin (Aconitin@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [22:12] cardboard (~cardboard@REDACTED) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:19] kneeko (~nico@REDACTED) joined #love [22:19] Don't judge it until you play it jerk [22:22] wow [22:22] butthurt much? [22:22] i never said it IS awefull [22:22] i said it LOOKS awefull [22:22] this essay is annoying [22:22] i have to "consider" the viewpoint of an oprah magazine writer [22:23] wat [22:23] why [22:23] idk [22:23] she claims that henrietta lacks was done a huge injustice [22:23] and exploited [22:23] you know why? [22:23] no [22:23] because she was black [22:23] that's literally the basis of her whole argument [22:23] it was bad because she was black [22:24] wut the heck is an oprah and henrietta [22:25] um [22:25] oprah is an angry pseudoscience-loving black woman [22:25] with a huge inferiority complex [22:25] she makes money by turning everything into a racial issue [22:26] henrietta lacks is a black woman who had cervical cancer in the 1950s and was treated for it but died anyway because it wasn't very well studied back then [22:26] nor was the treatment very good, i mean, it was basically "let's sew some radium in there and see what it does" [22:26] but uh [22:26] a small sample of the tumor was taken and grown in culture [22:27] and apparently that's some huge theft because it was "her cells!!!!" [22:27] these cells continued to grow indefinitely because they're cancerous [22:27] so they were easy to package up and ship to scientists all over the world to finally give them something to cheaply study human cells with [22:28] george gey, the gey who discovered these cells were immortal and stuff, decided not to patent anything and just handed out free samples because he cared more about research than money [22:28] anyway this silly hoe thinks that henrietta's family should get free healthcare for life because of all this [22:28] CrackedP0t (~CrackedP0@REDACTED) joined #love [22:29] because apparently it was racist to take the cells even though they had written consent [22:29] these people shouldn't be given attention, they just claim that anything and everything bad that happens to black people is an example of racism [22:42] CrackedP0t (~CrackedP0@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [22:44] Waffles (~SoggyWaff@REDACTED) joined #love [22:49] kyle__: i was considered racist because i asked someone where he is from :< [22:49] so ... [22:49] WORLD IS A MAD PLACE [22:52] phul: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHXpnZi9Hzs [22:52] josefnpat: thx :3 [22:59] Aconitin (Aconitin@REDACTED) joined #love [23:00] sla_ro|master (slamaster@REDACTED) left irc: [23:00] unek gave me his menu library [23:00] :o [23:00] and went away [23:01] pink floyd's another brick in the wall pt 2 makes me want taco bell [23:01] post link? [23:01] btw tacobell [23:01] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1LeBM5NiNw [23:04] SpiderDave_ (~SpiderDav@REDACTED) joined #love [23:04] Nick change: SpiderDave_ -> SpiderDave [23:04] SpiderRave [23:04] :< [23:05] SpiderCave [23:05] SpiderSlave [23:07] Slipyx (~slip@REDACTED) joined #love [23:07] Nitinoca (Aconitin@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [23:08] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvvjgDIC3e4 [23:09] XD [23:13] http://i.imgur.com/XqQN68M.png [23:13] load flags on all the assets :3 [23:15] hobblygobbly_ (~hobblygob@REDACTED) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [23:15] josefnpat|pi: hi-res! [23:18] http://i.imgur.com/YsBorgr.png [23:18] I got the email before you sent it here! [23:18] haha [23:18] beaten (off) by twitter! [23:19] haha, this imgur link isn't scaled by twitter [23:22] bartbes write my essay for me [23:22] "My dick is stuck in a tumble dryer." [23:22] does that work for you? [23:23] no it has to be 1k words [23:23] just repeat it again and again [23:23] go to word, type "=rand(200,099)", press enter [23:24] :( [23:24] hobblygobbly (~hobblygob@REDACTED) joined #love [23:24] it didn't do anything [23:24] it has to be at the start of a line [23:24] uwotm8 [23:24] http://puu.sh/cQUMR/538b2b7980.png [23:25] Nathan1852 (~Nathan185@REDACTED) joined #love [23:25] those are the parameters providing maximal wordage [23:25] I had some time between class in high school [23:25] heh [23:26] it didn't change the word count [23:26] only the page count [23:26] shorefire (~shorefire@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:26] it used to be about 200 pages, I think [23:26] gah [23:26] this is annoying [23:26] i have 860 words [23:26] like, the original [23:26] i need 140 more [23:26] how can i bullshit 140 more words [23:26] take a random tweet, map every character into a word [23:27] profit [23:28] 900 wordssss [23:28] need to bullshit 100 more [23:29] make a jingle [23:29] :< [23:31] Waffles (~SoggyWaff@REDACTED) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [23:31] quote right said fred [23:31] he must have uttered 100 words [23:31] 979 words [23:32] must bullshit 21 more [23:33] looking at their wikipedia page, australia and germany are really into right said fred [23:33] who knew? 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